Is it the lure of easy lucre, the siren call of more fame or just the pitfalls of plain stupidity.
Hey, who is it that can tell with certainty why Bollywood star Aamir Khan is embracing a foul-smelling thieving swine like Ghajini movie director A.R. Murugadoss.
Why, oh, why is Aamir Khan so enthusiastically willing to ignore the overpowering stench of the pig’s blood pouring out from Ghajini director Murugadoss’ various orifices and now seeping into Aamir’s own body. After all, Murugadoss is also the director of the Hindi version of Ghajini (a remake of the Tamil Ghajini) featuring Aamir Khan in the lead role.
To refresh our memory, we recently re-watched both Ghajini (Tamil) and Memento (If you live in the U.S., both are available from Netflix).
Now, hear our verdict:
Unless you are a blithering idiot, suffer from short-term memory loss, an unabashed apologist for stealing or sand-blind, it’s completely clear that Ghajini is nothing but yet another instance of the Tamil thieving swines (yes, we mean you Murugadoss) filching a fine Hollywood plot and claiming it as their own.
Murugadoss claims credit for the story, screenplay, dialogs and direction for Ghajini (Tamil). Yeah, right. And we are Lawrence of Arabia. And you dear reader are Ashoka the Great.
Ghajini – Crude, Ugly Copy
No ifs and buts here. Ghajini (Tamil) is nothing but a crude, ugly copy of Memento.
Well, here is the long list of similarities between Memento and Ghajini:
1. Both movies deal essentially with the story of a young man suffering from an unusual disability – the inability to form new memories for longer than a few minutes (As Leonard Shelby explains in Memento to the motel clerk: If we talk for too long, I’ll forget how we started).
2. Both movies focus on a young male protagonist who is extremely focused on extracting revenge for the murder of his loved one (wife in the case of Memento and girlfriend in Ghajini).
3. Both movies have a male protagonist whose short-term memory problems are caused by a violent blow to the head as he rushes to save his wife/girlfriend from a brutal attack.
4. Both movies highlight the use of tattoos by the protagonist on his body as a technique to remember important facts because it’s a permanent way of keeping a note (as Leonard says in Memento).
While the above four points indisputably demonstrate the major similarities between the two movies, there are similarities galore between Memento and Ghajini.
By the way, similarities in plain English means copying by Murugadoss because Memento (2000) came much earlier to Ghajini (2005).
Keep in mind that these are not coincidences but carefully planned and executed theft by the thieving swine Murugadoss. All for a few silver coins.
Here is more evidence of theft by the makers of Ghajini (Tamil):
5. Both movies have the protagonist using a Polaroid camera to take instant pictures of people and objects to aid his memory and organize his life.
6. Both movies highlight a striking and unforgettable tattoo on the male protagonist’s chest – Find Him…Kill Him.
7. Both movies display a protagonist who photographs the people he kills.
8. Both movies have a protagonist who keeps the camera on the left side of his body inside a coat.
9. Both movies feature a woman who helps the male protagonist in ultimately killing the murderer (Natalie in Memento and Chitra in Ghajini).
10. Both movies feature a bloody murder by the male protagonist in the first 15 minutes or so.
11. Both movies show the protagonist shaking the Polaroid picture with his left hand after it comes out of the camera (after the first murder).
12. Both movies present the protagonist using an elaborate paper chart on the wall with photographs to keep track of the bad fellas involved in the death of his loved one.
13. Both movies include a scene in which the protagonist trusses up a person with duct tape and hides him into a closet
14. Both movies showcase the constant use of Polaroid photographs by the protagonist to distinguish between friends (Natalie in Memento, Chitra in Ghajini) and enemies (Teddy in Memento, Lakshman in Ghajini).
15. Both movies make it clear that the last indelible memory of the protagonist is the murder of the wife/girlfriend.
16. Both movies have a pointer on the left thigh of the protagonist reminding him to shave. Yes, the protagonist does shave the left thigh in both films.
17. Both movies show the male protagonist explaining early in the movie to a key person near his place of residence (to the apartment security guard in Ghajini and to the motel clerk in Memento) that he has a memory issue. Yes, both the security guard and motel clerk are already familiar with the protagonist’s peculiar condition.
If after reading all of the above, you still think Ghajini is not stolen from Memento then you have a short-term memory issue like Leonard Shelby in Memento or Sanjay Ramasamy in Ghajini.
No, sir. This scene-by-scene copying in Ghajini goes far beyond inspiration and is nothing but theft.
Who is Aamir Khan trying to con with his drivel that Ghajini (Tamil) is not a copy of Memento?
We dare you to not only check out all that we’ve said above but if you intend to watch the Hindi Ghajini check if these similarities repeat in the movie as we expect it will because the Hindi Ghajini is after all a remake of the Tamil Ghajini.
Sure there are some differences between Ghajini (Tamil) and Memento.
Differences
First and foremost, Ghajini is a crude, ugly piece of shit compared to Memento.
Simply put, Memento is a masterpiece while Ghajini is a monsterpiece.
We’d go as far as to hail Memento as a classic example of the film noir genre and Ghajini as a crass example of the unschooled buffoon genre of movies.
It’s the difference between solid talent (Christopher Nolan, director of Memento) and shameless thievery (A.R. Murugadoss, director of Ghajini).
As long as movies are made, film students will talk in hushed tones about Memento director Christopher Nolan’s screenplay (based on his brother Jonathan Nolan’s short story) and its unusual and striking technique of juxtaposing two tracks in the movie – one in color (going backward in time) and the other in black & white (moving forward) and their eventual convergence. This is high art not low fart like Ghajini.
For sure, as long as movies are made, generations of serious film students will laugh loudly at Murugadoss’ buffonish screenplay.
Second, Ghajini director Murugadoss throws in the usual Kollywood staple of a bunch of inane songs accompanied by the usual hideous dances.
Third, the heroine (Asin in Ghajini) has more screentime compared to the wife in Memento because of the love angle Murugadoss introduces between Kalpana (Asin) and the businessman Sanjay Ramasamy/Manohar (Surya).
Overall Verdict
As we said earlier, Memento is a Hollywood classic while Ghajini is typical Kollywood garbage.
But for his post-injury memory retention issues and his idee fix on revenge, our protagonist Leonard (played with brilliance by Guy Pearce) in Memento is a normal individual.
Au contraire, Murugadoss makes Sanjay Ramasamy (Surya) look and behave like an unhinged character although he suffers from just the same memory retention issues as Leonard and the same obsession with revenge.
The principal villain of Ghajini is Murugadoss’ atrociously bad screenplay that plumbs the depth of nonsense compounded by the banal dialogs, mediocre music and the asinine dances that are an offensive assault on the eyes and ears.
Above all, it’s without doubt Murugadoss’ utter incompetence. This blockhead just doesn’t have the mental agility to mould a fine movie from the stolen clay in his hands.
Of the five songs in Ghajini, the only one that had any merit was Sutrum vizhi although its picturization was crappy.
Surya
Compared to his Tamil peers like Ajith or Vishal, Surya is a passable actor.
But the Surya we see in Ghajini is a shadow of the Surya who delighted us in the Gautam Menon directed cop story Kaakha Kaakha.
Either on his own or under the tutelage of the thieving swine Murugadoss, Surya turns his character of a memory-loss victim into a demented animal although his character is not one at all. If you are looking for proof, just look at Surya’s bizarre facial expressions, weird head movements, unsteady walk and other odd gestures.
Folks, short term memory loss is not the same as being off one’s rocker.
Is there no scope for subtle acting at all in Tamil movies?
Torturous as Surya was in Ghajini, he’s nothing compared to the agony inflicted by Asin on the unsuspecting audience or the brutal assault unleashed by that eternal, infernal nightmare of Tamil movies – Nayantara.
Freak-O-Midget
After watching Ghajini, we emerged from the ordeal in utter disbelief that such a thing as Asin also has a place in tinseltown.
How this freak-o-midget with little acting or dancing skills managed to find a foothold in the movie business is one of life’s little enigmas.
With a four-feet-like high frame reminding us that pygmies are not extinct, a hip wide enough to screen a wide-screen movie, a boyish chest more suited for Tantex banians than Victoria’s Secret lingerie, an asinine smile reminiscent of Downs Syndrome infants and dance steps that suggest waddling more than grace, this Asin thing in Ghajini is an inglorious triumph of brobdingnagian ambition over lilliputian talent.
Even if you whine that physical attributes are no more than God’s whimsical blessing or curse over which mere mortals have little say, on the things that Asin does control, stuff like acting, dancing or smiling pleasantly this abject Mallu object makes seemingly litte effort and stumbles through in a stupor of mediocrity.
Nauseous Performance
From the moment Asin appears in Ghajini via that Rahatulla song till that welcome instant in her new apartment when the villain Lakshman (Pradeep Rawat) employs an iron club to dispatch this Lilliput to her maker with thunderous blows to the head, this freak-o-midget tormented us so much that we’re inclined to believe that she hails not from God’s Own Country but Lucifer’s Own Hades.
When Surya proposes to her in the bus after the New Year party, when she agrees to his proposal on the beach with that silly 1 AM, 2 AM, 3 AM monolog, when she hands over Rs 2 lakh to Surya on the street, when she dances like a retard in the four songs, when she hears from the villain that he’s killed two of the girls and dumped them in the sea or when she’s clowning around in that small ad firm, it’s all no more than a sinful performance xeroxed multiple times.
Nayantara
If Satan’s agents come in different degrees of depravity, then Nayantara, who plays a medical student in Ghajini, represents Lucifer at his angriest and worst.
With that ugly nose-ring and her horrid performance in every single frame she features in, Nayantara in Ghajini represents the lowliest lows in Tamil cinema.
In a hideous black dress showing off her elephantine thighs, Nayantara in the X Machi song inflicts death by a thousand cuts on the captive hostages (audience) in the theatre.
Hindi Ghajini
Historians tell us that when the Black Plague struck Europe around 1340, it not only killed millions but often returned to finish off those whom it had passed by on its earlier visits.
With the Hindi version of Ghajini, that recidivist Murugadoss has teamed up with Aamir Khan and Asin to see if he can deliver yet another savage blow to those who survived the first onslaught of his hideous pestilential attack.
With Aamir Khan’s Ghajini expected to hew broadly to the story of the Tamil Ghajini (a fact acknowledged by Aamir Khan in interviews), this signals a new low even for the thieving swines of the Indian movie industry.
What’s next? – A Bhojpuri version of Ghajini and then a Ghajini (Telugu) followed by a Ghajini (Kannada) and a Ghajini (Assamese).
Are there no limits at all to stealing by our movie-makers?
Ghajini is an appropriate name for the movie because the Ghazini of history repeatedly looted India, notably stripping the Hindu temples of their wealth.
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Thanks for the damning analysis.
As I watched them 5 years apart, and because Ghajini’s plot was strayed away from Memento’s plot, I thought Murghi-dosa was telling the truth.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
A.R. Murugadoss is just another shameless stealing swine from the Tamil and Hindi movie industries.
In the interview he says “Shah Rukh has been saying a lot of things about himself for the last 20 years. I take whatever he says with a pinch of salt. Let me put it this way — he’s the guy who needed half the industry to make Om Shanti Om a success.”.. Was it meant in jest? Or are they really bickering like children? Need to brush up on the latest bollywood gossip..
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Our Bollywood/Kollywood stars constitute one mediocre bunch who get far too much importance for their limited talents.
Interesting review ..picchitinga.
btw, somebody has told aamir on his blog to watch “Memento” which he was unaware of. Hilarious ?
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write: btw, somebody has told aamir on his blog to watch “Memento” which he was unaware of. Hilarious ?
You know the story of the cat that closes its eyes & steals/drinks milk thinking no one is watching…Tamil Ghajini is nothing but stolen property.
going to buy the memento dvd and watch it this weekend..
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Happy watching.
If you have seen already Ghajini (Tamil), you’ll notice the similarities and of course the quality difference between the two.
Plagiarism in indian films brings me to ask – who in the industry do you expect – would give decent original movies? I mean directors and the like. How far do people like Ashutosh Gowariker, Madhur Bhandarkar etc go- on the scale of originality in their presentations?
I watched Swades today.. my personal favorite for a decent movie without any pretentions and great music. does searchindia carry a review of it?
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. You write: I watched Swades today.. my personal favorite for a decent movie without any pretentions and great music. does searchindia carry a review of it?
We’ve not reviewed it although we’ve watched it sometime back…thought Gayathri Joshi was a decent actress.
2. You write: Plagiarism in indian films brings me to ask – who in the industry do you expect – would give decent original movies?
Don’t call it plagiarism. Call it stealing.
who in the industry do you expect – would give decent original movies? Not sure, anymore.
hey.. look what i found in wikipedia..
‘The concept of anterograde amnesia from Memento was used to make an Indian movie, first in Tamil named Ghajini and it was simultaneously released in Telugu. The film was directed by A R Murugadoss and featured Surya Sivakumar and Asin as the central characters. The film, though inspired by Memento does not follow its plot closely. Both versions were box-office grossers.
A Hindi remake of the Tamil movie with same title (also directed by A R Murugadoss) starring Aamir Khan and Asin is slated to be released on December 25, 2008.’
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. It’s wrong to say that just the concept of Memento was used in Ghajini (Tamil).
There is plenty of scene-by-scene copying.
As the 17 similarities we’ve highlighted in the above review shows, Ghajini is a copy of Memento with some Indian ingredients thrown into the mix.
2. Anyone can change Wiki to write whatever they want.
You can describe Memento as the best Masala Dosa and it’ll probably get in there.
why so much attention on Ghazini ??? …this lengthy piece is a product of insane mind …much more torture than your impending Torturous review .
In nutshell you want to say – they copy and they dont know how to act or make movies …so many words and so many times …the same thing ??
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write: In nutshell you want to say – they copy and they dont know how to act or make movies …so many words and so many times
If we had just said Ghajini is an ugly copy of Memento, you’d have been the first to accuse us of making wild charges without substantiating it.
Hence the lengthy piece highlighting the many similarities (many of them scene-for-scene).
They steal (rather than copy) is a better way of putting what our Bollywood & Kollywood moviemakers do.
OMG.. i thought Ghajini was an original movie by A.R.Murungakaa(drumstick)das.. 😛 .. It’s obvious that the people who watched Memento WILL NOT like Ghajini.. and the ppl who didn’t will most probably like it.. I didn’t see Memento yet.. and I really liked Ghajini.. and according to me only Vijay (Pokkiri),Surya (Khakka Khakka), Vikram (Anniyan), Jeevan (Khakka Khakka), Prakash Raj (he’s wonderful in almost all of his movies), Prithvi Raj (Classmates,a malayalam movie, Mozhi) and Prabhu r the only good actors in Kollywood…
Now coming to Ghajini.. I thought Surya and Asin were really gud.. by Indian movie standards…i really liked Sanjay’s flashback.. lots of humour in it.. overall i found the movie to b really gud…
who knows.. After seeing Memento.. I may change my mind.. 😀 ..
sorry for out of topic..
but, how come when there is a flashback, usually the characters knows what others were doing? like how the hell surya would know what asin was doing i.e. the stupid jokes with her boss etc.
I mean in my flashback i only know what i have done and what others done in front of me. I wouldnt have known what my wife was doing with her boss or her maid before i even know her..
/rant
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Hilarious question but keep in mind that we are dealing with some of the dumbest moviemakers (Kollywood) on the planet.
These clowns would be laughed out of the theatre in any other place except Tamil Nadu.
Can any person use a Tattoo machine by himself to write on their body without any mistake in proper order, with many font type????
a person with a short term memory will have to keep the instruction manual of the Tattoo machine/needle also written some where in the body, right? Any logical explanation…by someone.
This struck me when I watched the Tamil Ghajini, the first time.
One more thing…Why, I don’t know, in kollywood they frequently show someone as a powerful person (the main character, maybe) running around the town with a Laptop/Notebook with assistants employed as a holder…??? Funny guys with crazy thinking.
I saw the same thing in a SUN TV tele-serial, those never ending, always crying and family feud story lined…tele series. I think it’s KOLANGAL and the character being Menaka (the usual, business tycoon from the US).
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write: I saw the same thing in a SUN TV tele-serial…
Offtopic Response: The intersection/nexus of politics+Sun TV+Big Business (movies + other businesses) is very dangerous for the common man.
Each element supports and reinforces the other in this unholy trinity making a mockery of democracy.
Do any other people, other than Indians, especially the european and hispanic origin watch kolly/bolly stuff by any chance in the US? I hope they would be looking for only comedy expectations in these…
I wonder what would they be thinking about us (the asians, especially the tamillians)
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Other than South Asians and the diaspora, no one else will watch this garbage (i.e. Hindi & Tamil movies).
I’m surprised that Ghajini is a rip off from a Hollywood movie! Waise, me thinks Asin was wonderful in Ghajini, she was real good 🙂
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write above: me thinks Asin was wonderful in Ghajini, she was real good 🙂
A lot of Germans thought Hitler was good.
A lot of Muslims think the Jews had something to do with the World Trade Center buildings coming down (Actually, a Pakistani once asked us about this on a train from Bonn to Cologne).
A lot of people in the erstwhile USSR thought Stalin was good.
A lot of Americans still think our President George W. Bush is very good.
A lot of Italians think Mussolini made the trains run on time.
A lot of Indians (RSS) still think Nathuram Godse did a good thing.
And a lot of Indians think Abhishek Bachchan is an actor.
Aargh! Yea, got the point! 😛
Btw, I’ve decided to watch the Hindi version on DVD, dont wanna risk the theatre
Shuaib, not sure about Ghajini.. don’t remember much, other than the fact that there are twin villains and the movie was bad (but ASIN WAS GOOD 😉 )
but in Memento, I think Guy goes to a tattoo parlor.. even that memory is a bit hazy.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write: but in Memento, I think Guy goes to a tattoo parlor.. even that memory is a bit hazy
Actually both…
Guy goes to tattoo parlor (Fact 6 – License Number) & also does it himself in the motel room (Fact 5 – Drug Dealer).
Unlike Surya in Ghajini, Guy doesn’t use any sophisticated tattoo paraphernalia…improvises with needle, ballpoint pen et al
Huh! yet another review for a yet another copy work…
Although the screenplay was poor i guess its the only original thing in this movie.
Can you review some really good kollywood movies(original)..it will be good to see a nice review from u guys.Like paruthi veeran,anjathe,subramanyaburam,katrathu tamil.
All these r totally village based stories so der wld be no case of stealing or plagiarism.Btw wat was wrong with ‘suttum vizhi’ ?
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. You write above: Can you review some really good kollywood movies(original)..it will be good to see a nice review from u guys.Like paruthi veeran,anjathe,subramanyaburam,katrathu tamil.
We’ll see if we can get them.
2. You write above: Btw wat was wrong with ‘suttum vizhi’ ?
That was not dancing but a good imitation of simian antics.
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SearchIndia.com Responds:
???
What are you trying to say? Not clear.
gk, I thought Paruthi Veeran and Subramaniapuram were very over-rated. Anjathe was too long.. but it was decent.. Katrathu Tamil was ok.. but all were much better than the ‘usual garbage’.
I was especially disappointed with Subramaniapuram.. i think the director tricked(into believing that there is something interesting in the movie..) the audience with the fantastic illayarajah songs playing in the background.. The plot was very very vacuous.. when compared to the other 3 movies.
Paruthi Veeran didn’t live my to my high expectations..
I like the soundtrack of katrathu tamil.
But we should laud them for the original efforts to take tamil cinema in a healthier direction.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write: Paruthi Veeran didn’t live my to my high expectations..
We haven’t seen the movie but Priyamani seems OK (we mean her photos).
listen to the song in the link
http://[in.youtube.com]/watch?v=QykJg4aDO-c
SearchIndia.com Responds:
We must add Patna to the list of places where Elvis has been sighted.
You seem to have a liking for dusky (arguable) beauties.. Priyamani, Navya Nair, and mustachioed Padma priya.. or names with “ya” in it?? Of these 3 mani is the best looker..
Aishwarya Rai, Deepika Padukone.. best looking actresses seem to hail from Karnataka.. but Kannada movies (from whatever I caught on Udaya (?) channel over 10 years ago..) seem to have some of the ugliest actresses (malashri is the only one I know.. but she is butt ugly) .. probably because of lousy pay?..
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write: You seem to have a liking for dusky (arguable) beauties..
We have a Punjabi friend (Sardar) who swears nothing in life comes close to a White Girl. He claims to have sampled ’em all.
You write: “pig’s blood pouring out from Ghajini director Murugadoss’ various orifices”
WOW! What a comment, what good nice thinking. We Feel the above is not a disgusting comment at all and you should be really a very good/ well natured man to say that. You also get the same as above comment!!! Than vinai thanai sudum.
Any movie related advertisers should be smart enough to use this site to gain business, because it promote even worst movies with very very good mouthing and no bad words at all.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. Are you the patron-saint of TNK (Thirutu Nais of Kollywood)?
Here we are talking about the shameless plagiarism rampant in the Tamil film industry and you are turning your venomous sarcasm towards us. Talk of going off on a tangent.
2. You write above: you should be really a very good/ well natured…to say that..
Tell us something new.
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i agree with gk.. you might want to watch anjathey and subramaniapuram especially..
one think i like about subramaniapuram is when they show the flashback from 1980s, they really made looks real, with the bell bottoms style etc..
unlike most of tamil movies where they show flashback of 20 to 30 years ago but you can see the characters listening to mp3 players, driving newly registered cars etc.. nonsense
regarding sardar liking white girls.. they seem to maintain the highest level of fitness..
I have a feeling that black girls like indian guys.. i haven’t gone fishing so this is only at theory level.. from the way they look at indians..
is it probably because they think we are chaste (haha!) and they will be financially more secure than they are with black guys.. or they are bored of 8″ tools
seems like quite a few people think like i do..
I did a search
http://www.google.com/search?q=black+girls+like+indian+guys&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
and got many hits.. the link below seems to be most relevant.,
http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-confidential-cafe/604682-do-black-girls-like-asian-guys.html
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write: I have a feeling that black girls like indian guys….is it probably because they think we are chaste (haha!) and they will be financially more secure than they are with black guys.. or they are bored of 8″ tools
You forgot to mention the high incarceration rate for Black men in the U.S.
Excerpt from a New York Times piece:
@ Þórarinsdóttir
Paruthi veeran was not overrated but it gained huge critical acclaim due to the strong performances from the actors esp. karthi,u wld definitely not believe that hes a debutant.Also its a brave attempt in making that kinda movie.
Anjathe was long with an ordinary story but the narration is totally new to tamil cinema,it had all the elements to keep the audience on their seats for about 3 1/2 hours.
Trivia about subramanyapuram : The male and the female lead never touches each other throughout the movie,but still the romance has been shown very well.This happens in tamil cinema almost after 75 years.
Interesting topic here at the moment. Here’s one slightly related to the who is the best looking. Glance at the overflowing array of relationship themed reality shows over the past decade in the US like The Bachelor/Bachelorette, Joe Millionaire, Average Joe, Temptation Island, The Fifth Wheel, Blind Date, etc.; not to mention the vast array on MTV alone such as Next, Date My Mom, Parental Control. Obviously these shows are dominated by white women, but there are also a significant amount of Hispanic, Black and Asian (in the Chinese/Japanese/Filipino East Asian sense) women. However, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a Pakistani-/Indian-American participant or contestant on any of these shows EVER! Why is this?
Women from the subcontinent are quite gorgeous. I’m sure SI believes that beauty, as opposed to acting talent, is a prerequisite for females being cast in Bollywood films. I’d rather watch Cate Blanchett act, but I’d rather gaze at Priyanka Chopra. The last decade or so of results in contests like Miss World and Miss Universe have seen a spike in the amount of times Indian women have won compared to the first 30-50 years of these competitions. But in America, I don’t think I’ve ever seen an Indian-American compete for Miss Teen USA or Miss America while there are always plenty of contestants that are black, hispanic or of east Asian descent. Also the same applies to watching American sports and seeing cheerleaders on the sidelines of football and basketball. Mostly white, mixed with Hispanic, black and east Asians, but no South Asian women. Anyone want to take a stab at why this is?
I’d personally have to disagree with Sardar. Some of it has to do with the fact that I know goris, especially from the southern parts of the US like Texas, Tennessee, Alabama, smear on makeup to the point where they resemble rodeo clowns. It can be startling to see them without it. But maybe it’s because I’ve been around goris for most of my life and I’m immune to them and wouldn’t know where to rank American goris. If I had to rank women from around the world in terms of beauty I’d go:
1. Brazil
2. Afghanistan
3. Singapore
4. India
5. Italy
6. Spain
7. Pakistan
8. Thailand
9. Australia
10. Lebanon
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. Why no South Asian beauty pageant contestants, cheerleaders or sports stars in the U.S.?
The following is based on observation of our desis in the U.S. over several years.
Most desis here in the U.S. are first generation immigrants of which there are two kinds – the educated ones & the family immigrants.
Educated ones fill good jobs, make money, more apt to work in universities/big companies & lately startups. The family immigrants are mostly Gujaratis & Punjabis, the vast majority of who are at the lower end of the economic hierarchy. You can see them working in places like Dunkin Donuts in NJ, Motels in Atlantic City, the large American grocery stores in Louisiana, gas stations in Long Island, check cashing centers in Maryland, newstands in Manhattan and the Quiznos/Subway kinda stores in Virginia. For these first generation Gujaratis/Punjabis, life is a constant battle for survival and there is very little chance of their children going into acting/beauty pageants/cheerleading/sports.
The educated immigrants bring their Indian baggage here – this means they (just like the Chinese Americans) give extraordinary importance to and have an idee fixe with education (school/ university kind) as opposed to all other pursuits like beauty pageants/cheerleading/reality shows/sports, which they just do not appreciate. The presiding diety & one to which they pay maximum homage is SAT/MCAT/LSAT/GRE/GMAT scores besides of course the mandatory weekly trips to the Hindu temples. They have more disposable income which they spend on education of their children who therefore invariably turn out to be engineers, doctors, university professors & now even lawyers and pharmacists. Besides the obsession with education, desis also have a cultural bias against American beauty pageants, cheerleading et al, which they tend to look down upon (Indians are of course the greatest hypocrites in the world – what they preach/say and what they do are two entirely different things).
As always, there are some aberrations like Kal Penn (Namesake, Van Wilder et al). As with everything else in life, with time the attitudes will change but we are unlikely to see them in large numbers following other pursuits in our lifetimes.
2. Our sample size is very small (just one) but South African gals are very pretty too (Psst, we are referring to Charlize Theron..bonus she talks very sensibly too). In terms of beauty, many of the Hispanics are also very pretty (second/third/fourth/N+one-th generation Mexicans).
Hey Þórari…(Sounds Ferrari to me)
How are you? How’s your sex change? do you get periods bTw??? ha,ha.. (Sorry, my kinda lousy joke it is)
I also watched Paruthi Veeran. But, it’s ok than most of the junk we used to see lately such as ATM and the likes. As you say, it is over rated to some extent. Priyamani is doing well in that. After PV, she was riding really high and I like her feature and her assets as well.
BTW, Is there any downturn in chick’s real estate assets in this financial clout? I wonder.
i think angelina jolie is sexiest woman in the world.she is a decent actress too much better than aishwarya rai or priyanka chopra or any other bollywood actress
hows the song
SearchIndia.com Responds:
OK but nothing remarkable.
SI, don’t miss http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0366551 Kal’s best movie, in my opinion.
Gora, yes, as you have been around goris throughout, you probably don’t find them “exotic”.. And in the south, you probably stumbled across a disgusting lot of trailer park Britneys.. that will sicken you..
Only once I have met some real rednecks.. in a gas station in South Carolina.. Boy, did they look poor! only then I realized that I had been using the term “redneck” rather recklessly.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. Will review Harold & Kumar Go to White Castle shortly.
2. You write: Only once I have met some real rednecks
One redneck once told us to our face in a convenience store (he did this by telling the young woman working there) that we should all be sent home. We told him we were already home.
And I find Cate Blanchett to be more beautiful(not just because she is white) than Priyanka.. but I’d rather gaze at Priyanka than the present day Angelina.. Angelina did look great once upon a time.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write: Angelina did look great once upon a time
Now, she’s become a baby machine.
DUMBEST ARTICLE EVER READ!!!!!
“Both movies feature a woman who helps the male protagonist in ultimately killing the murderer (Natalie in Memento and Chitra in Ghajini).”
This one line is a proof of your intelligence on how well you understood Memento.
I have to agree upon your other similarities and even the director has accepted that. According to him the story for Ghajini was initially about a rich man’s vengeance on his wife’s murderers and it was written before Memento was released. After watching memento, he liked the concept of short term memory loss and changed the script to use that. (He also used(copied) the techniques used by the hero.). There is no denying that.
But (it is a very big BUT), the similarity stops there. It is definitely not a scene by scene copy( as ur post suggests). The screen play is completely DIFFERENT. The story in memento takes place TWO YEARS AFTER the hero had actually killed his wife’s murderer. This explains why the wife character does not have much screen presence. Ghajini is about the hero actually killing the murderer.
I still dont understand how you can tell Ghajini is a “scene by scene copy”…
I would recommend you to watch Memento again with some one who is not as dumb as you, or at least read the story of memento in some web site, where they would have presented it in chronological order for morons like you to understand it better.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You are living proof that even God makes mistakes.
We have given 15 or 17 examples to support our argument that Ghajini is a pathetic copy of Memento.
Many of them are scene-for-scene copies.
Schmuck, we are reproducing the list of similarities between Ghajini & Memento:
1. Both movies deal essentially with the story of a young man suffering from an unusual disability – the inability to form new memories for longer than a few minutes (As Leonard Shelby explains in Memento to the motel clerk: If we talk for too long, I’ll forget how we started).
2. Both movies focus on a young male protagonist who is extremely focused on extracting revenge for the murder of his loved one (wife in the case of Memento and girlfriend in Ghajini).
3. Both movies have a male protagonist whose short-term memory problems are caused by a violent blow to the head as he rushes to save his wife/girlfriend from a brutal attack.
4. Both movies highlight the use of tattoos by the protagonist on his body as a technique to remember important facts because it’s a permanent way of keeping a note (as Leonard says in Memento).
5. Both movies have the protagonist using a polaroid camera to take instant pictures of people and objects to aid his memory and organize his life.
6. Both movies highlight a striking and unforgetable tattoo on the male protagonist’s chest – Find Him…Kill Him.
7. Both movies display a protagonist who photographs the people he kills.
8. Both movies have a protagonist who keeps the camera on the left side of his body inside a coat.
9. Both movies feature a woman who helps the male protagonist in ultimately killing the murderer (Natalie in Memento and Chitra in Ghajini).
10. Both movies feature a bloody murder by the male protagonist in the first 15 minutes or so.
11. Both movies show the protagonist shaking the polaroid picture with his left hand after it comes out of the camera (after the first murder).
12. Both movies present the protagonist using an elaborate paper chart on the wall with photographs to keep track of the bad fellas involved in the death of his loved one.
13. Both movies include a scene in which the protagonist trusses up a person with duct tape and hides him into a closet
14. Both movies showcase the constant use of polaroid photographs by the protagonist to distinguish between friends (Natalie in Memento, Chitra in Ghajini) and enemies (Teddy in Memento, Lakshman in Ghajini).
15. Both movies make it clear that the last indelible memory of the protagonist is the murder of the wife/girlfriend.
16. Both movies have a pointer on the left thigh of the protagonist reminding him to shave. Yes, the protagonist does shave the left thigh in both films.
17. Both movies show the male protagonist explaining early in the movie to a key person near his place of residence (to the apartment security guard in Ghajini and to the motel clerk in Memento) that he has a memory issue. Yes, both the security guard and motel clerk are already familiar with the protagonist’s peculiar condition.
The next time you get the urge to post some ridiculous comment, throw your keyboard out of the window.
Ghajini is a good entertainer only if you have not seen “memento”, it may be copy , but this movie made us to see “memento”, for that i am very thankful to murugadoss and forgot his sins of taking credits for a stolen story line.
but the screenplay , dialogues and direction are original, bcos had he copied it , ghajini would ve been a great film.
How come Surya remembers he has short term memory loss everytime after 15 minutes?
“memento” had a good logic. “Remember Sammy jankis”
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write: Ghajini is a good entertainer only if you have not seen “mementoâ€, it may be copy , but this movie made us to see “memento
Very true.
why are you guys so serious? It is just entertainment. Just because you guys watched momento, doesn’t mean everybody in India has done so.
If you felt so strongly about it, you shouldn’t have watched the hindi version in the first place. Why did you do so?
You guys look like a bunch of people who haven’t taken a good crap for a long time, you all seem so constipated. Take a laxative, relax and Cheer up!!
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. You write: Just because you guys watched momento, doesn’t mean everybody in India has done so.
WTF is this nonsense supposed to mean? Obviously you are trying to say that since many people in India haven’t watched Memento, it’s OK to put out stolen crap like Ghajini. What an effete defense of a crappy movie.
2. You write: If you felt so strongly about it, you shouldn’t have watched the hindi version in the first place. Why did you do so?
In the Christian spirit (it’s after all Christmas today), we’ve sacrificed ourselves on the altar of public good so that others do not have to endure the same pain.
3. You write: why are you guys so serious? It is just entertainment.
Entertainment is precisely what this movie is not.
4. You write: You guys look like a bunch of people who haven’t taken a good crap for a long time, you all seem so constipated. Take a laxative, relax and Cheer up!!
Maybe you ought to take an Imodium to stop the oral diarrhea from your anterior orifice (we mean your mouth).
This is one of the best movie review I’ve ever read.
Thanks for the eye opener.
The movie lovers should consider watching the classic movie Memento first before falling prey to the lowly piece made by murugadoss. In terms of the worth of your valuable money spent you will realise two things:
1. Watching a classic movie like memento can do wonders to your soul and mind.
2. Watching a damaged copy of a classic can leave u feeling sick at the end.
But for God’s sake do this for once and you will realise that rather than watching an inferior copy you would be better of watching the original masterpiece or even a Hindi dubbed version of the masterpiece would be worth your heard earned money.
sanewar is right that we watched memento only because ghajini was copied from it. In a way we were directed to the best version after getting a taste of the inferior version.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Very true.
“Other than South Asians and the diaspora, no one else will watch this garbage (i.e. Hindi & Tamil movies).”
That’s ignorant.
Bollywood movies are watched in a whole bunch of European (esply Central & Eastern European)/ South American / African countries.
Not just in the Middle East & South Asia.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Maybe, some folks in Turkey, Russia & a few African countries. But still the numbers pale into insignificance compared to the South Asian/diaspora audience.
no, no, nooo.
not just “some folks in Turkey, Russia & a few African countries.”
They are watched in countries like Brazil, Denmark, Poland & Germany to name a few. And that’s pretty good viewership, a lot more than what European/East Asian Film garners.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write above: They are watched in countries like …Poland…to name a few
Poles love Bollywood films?
Not surprising considering their reputation as the stupidest persons on the planet.
Whoever coined the expression Stupid Polack must have been a smart man/woman.
http://www.indiacurrents.com/news/view_article.html?article_id=ed3cb665a096131d4513790aa49dd456
I think it’s a little of both. For the people who want to find it, they’ll get it.
I agree much more with SI though than Beni. From the theaters I’ve gone to watch a Bollywood movie at in the big metros of Sydney, Auckland, London, and New York City, not to mention the smaller regional cities and towns, 99% of the time I am the only gora in the theater unless I bring some friends with me.
Why Christopher Nolan IS a thieving swine.
I think Memento is the only movie you have seen from director Chris Nolan, Go watch Insomnia(2002) ripped off from the 1997 Norwegian film of the same name
by Erik Skjoldbjærg.
I’m sorry how would you know about a norwegian film?? Forgot that Hollywood is your only knowledge of foreign films. No wonder you are livin in the Capitalist anti Human rights US of A.
I can write pages on your ignorance about the film world and the real world (outside of US) as well , wish i had more time. (may be tommorrow)
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. You write above: I think Memento is the only movie you have seen from director Chris Nolan
No. We’ve watched Batman Begins & Dark Knight as well.
2. You write: Go watch Insomnia(2002) ripped off from the 1997 Norwegian film of the same name
Was it ripped off or an authorized remake meaning acknowledged/credited/paid for? Yes, we’ll watch the Norwegian film Insomnia shortly. It’s on Netflix.
3. You write: No wonder you are livin in the Capitalist anti Human rights US of A.
You lecturing us on human rights?
* Just two days back, a PWD engineer was killed in Uttar Pradesh by goons because he couldn’t give the money demanded by the local politicians.
* Encounter deaths are an every day reality in India. As even a child in India knows, these encounters are nothing but cold-blooded murder.
* Some 300-400 million of your countrymen suffer the indignity of shitting in the open every day.
* Your Shiv Sena leader Thackeray is openly welcoming Hindu terrorists.
* Under the leadership of Gujarat Chief Minister Narendar Modi, there was wholesale slaughter of Muslims.
* You still have famine deaths.
* Your legal system is so overburdened that there are 29 million court cases pending in India. How many decades is it going to take to clear this massive backlog?
And scumbag, you dare talk of human rights in our country (USA). Are you frigging out of your mind.
4. You write: I can write pages on your ignorance about the film world and the real world (outside of US)
Yeah, yeah and a single Post-it would suffice for us to write all that you know.
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0278504/fullcredits#writers
🙂
Nolan did give me credit.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Thanks. 🙂
If IMDB is accurate, that nails the coffin on the above clown rejeesh.
hey
in every creations there may be some mistakes. even what god has created. we may see its even in gajani film also ( i am talking about tamil version). we can point out many world wide films theirs huge mistakes (hollywood, iran, french, hong kong, etc)ok. so dont made holes as tunnel.the film has created who did not watch memento, who lives in villages who lives in rural areas. certainly who dont know english to understand. memento is nice film and nice product. if there any good thing what the people can enjoy there is no wrong to copy. just a creator has to take that to his people as they can understand. i hope thats what murugadas have done in gajani (tamil).
plz find urself time to see tamil films paruthi veeran, raam, mozli, veyil, kattradu tamil, ………….. and then comment about tamil films. certainly we dont have all in all good films and creators but we have many. murugadass also one of them.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. You write above: if there any good thing what the people can enjoy there is no wrong to copy. just a creator has to take that to his people as they can understand.
Hard to beat this crappy defense of copying.
2. You write: plz find urself time to see tamil films paruthi veeran, raam, mozli, veyil, kattradu tamil, ………….. and then comment about tamil films.
We’ve seen Mozhi & Veyil.
This my reply to the poor guy who took so much pain to cite that gajini is from memento. WHAT AN ACHEIVEMENT. As if all the hindi films are genuine.
If you look around you can see that many movies are copied from hollywood or from south. Like amitabh,bipasha,john starrer,bipasha ,john and shweta tiwari starrer and many more.
So leave aamir and muragadoss.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Copying is rampant….so, let’s not worry about it. That seems to be your argument.
Weird.
Just curious!
Would it have made it easier to rate other aspects of the movie (other than the “blatant copying of the story”) in an unbiased fashion, , If murgadoss or aamir had released a press statement saying the movie was strongly inspired by memento!
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. We are not biased in the least.
2. It’s not the issue of a press statement, when you take someone else’s property you need to compensate him/her.
Our Bollywood/Kollywood directors and producers being the thieving swines they are, they refuse to even acknowledge being strongly inspired (your words) because that would expose them to legal hazards.
You write:You lecturing us on human rights?blah blah
At least thats in our own country, we’ll handle our own shit
But for you the outside world is only for
* for carpet bombing in the name of precision bombing
* supporting friggin dictators and crushing the human rights in the country to get free oil and sell colas
* Killing whatever is Islam and Communist to please Israel and Vatican
* copying film by giving credits because the average american can’t read the subtitles of the original haha
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. There’s some merit in your argument on U.S. support of foreign dictators & carpet bombing.
We agree both are horrid. Use of Agent Orange in Vietnam and the invasion of Iraq were catastrophic mistakes.
2. We don’t think we are killing Islam…the folks who attacked us on 9/11 were not Buddhists.
3. The last time we checked we were still the largest AID provider (public/govt & private donations together) to the world in $ terms.
4. As for copying films, there’s very little creativity in Indian film industry. Quantity not quality is the mantra. Most copying (of movies, computer software & other intellectual property) happens in countries like India, China, Russia & Ukraine…not in the U.S.
WHY DON’T YOU DIRECT A MOVIE INSTEAD OF RATING/COMMENTING
I don’t care what your shit is YOU SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
reks
SearchIndia.com Responds:
By the same logic, why don’t you do some brain transplant surgery on yourself to get something in your head that works rather than merely rattles.
You write:1.We don’t think we are killing Islam…the folks who attacked us on 9/11 were not Buddhists.
2. The last time we checked we were still the largest AID provider (public/govt & private donations together) to the world in $ terms.
3. As for copying films, there’s very little creativity in Indian film industry. Quantity not quality is the mantra. Most copying (of movies, computer software & other intellectual property) happens in countries like India, China, Russia & Ukraine…not in the U.S.
1.You have no rt to kill people in Iraq , Afg, pak or anywhere even in the name of collateral damage for the 10 islamic names you provided as proof for 9/11. Why din’t you attack your own christian population for the Oklahama city bombing?Accept that your hidden aganda is to nullyfy whatever is Islam. Barack Obama wouldn’t be president if he had stressed on his Hussain roots.Who knows? he could be the next JFK.
2.What’s the use selling the oil that ain’t urs and giving a minimal profit share back in the name of Aid?
3.With the film and music industry in india (esp bollywood), i agree with your point, But i don’t complain as they have to cater to the majority of common indian, not the multiplex going intellectual minority.
Broaden your viewing more to south indian films more of the independant ones, Directors like Adoor, Shaji Karun, shyamaprasad, Ameer sultan, Mahendran, Padmarajan, Aravindan etc (its not a small list). You might change your view about Indian movies.
See how they make beautiful art with their limited budget. Hey…even hollywood ain’t a benchmark
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. Yes, every death in Iraq is a tragedy. And the Oklahoma bombers were sentenced to death.
2. You write above: Whats the use selling the oil that ain’t urs and giving a minimal profit share back in the name of Aid?
We have spent over half a trillion $ on Iraq. We are not getting back anything except a large dose of misery.
3. You write: Broaden your viewing more to south indian films more of the independant ones
Yes, we will.
4. You write: But i don’t complain as they have to cater to the majority of common indian, not the multiplex going intellectual minority.
That’s a poor defense for theft & lack of creativity. The real reason – the folks in Bollywood & Kollywood are lazy & want quick money.
Hi Searchindia,
This is the first time I am posting a comment though I have read lot of your reviews.
I stumbled upon this website one day and have literally become addicted to your reviews.
You guys are doing a good job.
But sometimes I feel you guys are going a little too much. I understand your frustration on the quality of movies being produced in india. But I think it would be wise if you have Indian movies as the yardstick while reviewing indian movies.
Like Ghajini I thought was a nice movie though it has lots of lift-ups from Memento. Certain scenes really brought a smile, certain scenes were absurd but overall it was a feel good movie. Indian movies have their own limitations especially Tamil movies because they don’t have the liberty to try something different (most of the times)because it bombs in the box-office..ideal egs would be most of the masterpieces from Kamalhassan, kannathil muthamittal etc. So they need to have some commercial elements in place.
I thoroughly enjoyed your reviews of Kuruvi, Sathyam etc but I thought Vaaranam Ayiram and Ghajini deserved atleast some amount of appreciation since they were a lot better when compared to their contemporaries.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. You write: I thought Vaaranam Ayiram and Ghajini deserved atleast some amount of appreciation since they were a lot better when compared to their contemporaries
We find it hard to appreciate crappy, stolen shit like Ghajini.
As for Vaaranam Aayiram, we held it up to the Forrest Gump light and found it wanting.
2. You write: Indian movies have their own limitations especially Tamil movies because they don’t have the liberty to try something different (most of the times) because it bombs in the box-office..ideal egs would be most of the masterpieces from Kamalhassan, kannathil muthamittal etc. So they need to have some commercial elements in place.
This is an interesting point that you raise. We’ll respond to it at a later date via a separate post but stealing is not the way out.
3. You write: But I think it would be wise if you have Indian movies as the yardstick while reviewing indian movies
You don’t benchmark against trash.
“Children of a Lesser God”.. have you watched it.. I believe it was the “inspiration” for Mozhi.. as you haven’t mentioned anything about in the review, I am assuming that you may have missed it. Marlee won Oscar for Jothika’s role.. 🙂
SearchIndia.com Responds:
No, haven’t watched it.
You write above: I believe it was the “inspiration” for Mozhi.
Gosh, are there any Indian movies that are not inspired or stolen?
Just 3 words for Aamir, Murugadoss and all Ignorants.
“IGNORANCE IS BLISS” __Thomas Grey.
“Ignorance is not innocence, but sin.”- Robert Browning
Let me Add by saying faking Ignorance is also a Sin (and not that bimbo named Asin).
“Ignorance is not bliss — ignorance is ignorance.” – Source Unknown
“If ignorance is bliss, why aren’t more people jumping up and down for joy.” – Source Unknown
“There’s a sucker born every minute.” – P.T. Barnum
This one’s another Classic:
“Unintelligent people always look for a scapegoat.” – Ernest Bevin
“If you think education is expensive, try ignorance.” – Derek Bok
There must be over a million quotes about “Ignorance”.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Here’s one more from our Yale Book of Quotations:
WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH
[upper case/capital letters used in the original]
– George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four pt.1 ch.1 (1949)
P.570 The Yale Book of Quotations.
Why are most of the bloggers of this site South Indians.
Are we the only ones to take criticism in our stride.
Where are the other Indian suckers.
By reading their replies, it looks to me that these SI.com reviewers are very Proud Americans, which is Good.
America should play Big Brother to their own Good. They Should behave like a very responsible elder sibling along with their developed Allies.
Indians are to Americans, what Bangladeshis are to India. Immigration is fine only if it is legal.
I’m afraid Indians are spreading everywhere, and building mini-Indias wherever they go which is very very
Dangerous (I Love Roxette).
God help Americans from us.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write above: Where are the other Indian suckers.
Busy kissing the derrieres of Aamir Khan, Shahrukh Khan et al.
“A lot of Muslims think the Jews had something to do with the World Trade Center buildings coming down (Actually, a Pakistani once asked us about this on a train from Bonn to Cologne).”
One Pakistani asked you guys this question, but what made you say that a LOT of Muslims think that way? An assumption or you actually have got anything substantiating?
“These clowns would be laughed out of the theatre in any other place except Tamil Nadu.” – What proves it?
“Poles love Bollywood films?
Not surprising considering their reputation as the stupidest persons on the planet.” – Also heard the same about Americans! You might not have heard (or ignored) about the jokes that do rounds in India and Australia and on the Web (three of the places where I spend my time) that highlight the height of American Stupidity!
Looks like you have been defending America desperately in many of the prev comments.
Lets for a change talk about a topic where USA is going miserably wrong and see how you defend it! 😉
So dude, stick to your topic and not make baseless comments about populations. (The ones I have highlighted in quotes)!
By the way, I’m Tollywood fan! Any comment?
Happy Criticizing!
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. You write above: “A lot of Muslims think the Jews had something to do with the World Trade Center buildings coming down (Actually, a Pakistani once asked us about this on a train from Bonn to Cologne).”
One Pakistani asked you guys this question, but what made you say that a LOT of Muslims think that way? An assumption or you actually have got anything substantiating?
You obviously belong to the category of schmucks that believes any kind of reading is injurious to your health. You must be the only fella in the world not aware of the several conspiracy theories swirling around 9/11.
2. You write: “These clowns would be laughed out of the theatre in any other place except Tamil Nadu.” – What proves it?
Just look at the garbage that comes out of your sewers masquerading as movies. Only in Tamil Nadu would clowns like Ajith find success.
3. You write: Not surprising considering their reputation as the stupidest persons on the planet.” – Also heard the same about Americans! You might not have heard (or ignored) about the jokes that do rounds in India and Australia and on the Web (three of the places where I spend my time) that highlight the height of American Stupidity!
Of course, we Americans are stupid. And you ought to be extremely grateful for it. Because of our stupidity we are throwing crumbs (outsourcing) to the coolies in India when we don’t have enough on our plate. When we come to our senses and pull the plug on outsourcing, you’ll come up for air gasping for oxygen. Back to your bullock carts & komanams (loin-cloths) then.
If you had any brains, you’d rejoice in the American stupidity and pray that it lasts long. But it won’t last for ever.
4. You write: Looks like you have been defending America desperately in many of the prev comments.
Lets for a change talk about a topic where USA is going miserably wrong and see how you defend it! 😉
That we defend the interests of America and Americans on these forums is hardly a secret to our readers. We are Americans and view the world through the prism of our interests.
Having said that, we are not blind to the ills of our country. On this blog, we have inveighed against many of the ill-considered policies of our government like the bailout of Wall Street and the auto industry, attack on Iraq et al. We’ve also bemoaned the fact that our government has turned into a plutocracy.
And last time we checked, India was not a Ram Rajya. It took you nearly three days to flush out 8 or 10 terrorists. Every week, some whacko in some corner of your country is bombing the bejesus out of your people. All you folks are capable of doing is soil your undies.
5. You write: By the way, I’m Tollywood fan! Any comment?
Who cares whether you are a Tollywood fan or Taliban fan. In any case, both have a similar IQ.
I just had one question to the writer of this article, are you suffering from the same disease? but I see one difference you took 3 years to comment about Ghajini (Tamil) and Momento…I feel you are just attempting to see whether your article will reduce the number of viewers of the Hindi Ghajini with Aamir Khan in it…May be you hate Aamir Khan…otherwise I dont think the pice os material that you have written will take 3 years to edit and present it to us….
SearchIndia.com Responds:
If you have the cojones, why don’t you address the topic of why Aamir Khan is in bed with a thieving swine.
We don’t hate anyone here, not even obvious retards like you.
BTW, this blog was not in existence three years back.
You dumb idiot!!! You forgot lot more similarities between Ghajini and Memento.
1) Both protagonists have 2 hands and 2 legs.
2) Both can talk, walk and drive.
3) Both are male and their lovers are female.
4) Both are not blind or deaf.
5) Both wear pants and shirts.
The list goes on… I can spend a lifetime pointing out the similarities!!! Are you too stupid to miss these???
Searchindia.com Responds:
You write: I can spend a lifetime pointing out the similarities!!!
Dickhead, bet you can easily spend a lifetime searching for your dick too.
If you have the cojones, try to refute the arguments we’ve made on the similarities between Ghajini & Memento.
If you do not have the mental wherewithal to refute our copying argument, scoot.
No, we won’t hold your idiocy against you. God knows 80% of the world is comprised of dolts like you.
Dear Mr. Pea Brain,
It is quite natural that a deluded American ass kisser such as you, would conveniently ignore (sorry for the wrong choice of words; I should have said that you have no idea) the fact that Memento is a “re-make” of a Korean film.
Task for you dumb scumbag – Take your face out of Hollywood’s butt and go figure what film it was; then we can discuss further. If you are dumb enough to figure that out, come back to me and plead for another hint.
I feel sorry for your family and friends (do you have any? sure you do; there is no shortage of idiots like you in this world); I could never stand a half-baked screwball like you.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Vandatangapa comedy pasanga (here come the clowns).
1. Schmuck, we ain’t playing 20-questions with dumb twits here. You can’t even get a sentence straight & you have the audacious temerity to play mindgames with us (Just look at the latter part of your second para).
2. Just because Peppermint Candy uses a reverse chronology technique to tell the story, Memento does not become a remake of the Korean film.
Dickhead, ever heard of a dictionary. You might want to look up the word remake.
3. You write: I feel sorry for your family and friends
Reserve your sympathy for yourself, moron. You need it more than us. If Anne Robinson were around, she’d probably tell you to stop putting the ‘more’ into moron.
4. You write: I could never stand a half-baked screwball like you
So, how do you manage to live with yourself?
5. As we said earlier in response to your previous crappent oops comment, if you have the cojones, try to refute the arguments we’ve made on the similarities between Ghajini & Memento. If you can’t, find some rathole.
Dhodaa, naataamai vandhuttaru theerpa solla (here comes the village wise man to deliver his judgement).
1. Did you think I was playing 20-questions? How more dumb can you be. First you get your sentences right; then you can worry about others.
2. There goes another wacker. Just because Ghajini uses memory problems, tattoos and polaroid photos, it does not become a re-make of Memento, you wacko.
3. You are right. You do not deserve any sympathy. Non-stop American butt-kissing does seem to sustain you, you thick-skinned WUM.
4. How do I manage to live with myself? It is a lot easier than all the butt-kissing you have to do to sustain yourself. So, don’t worry about me. I am just fine.
5. Sure you remind me that you are a dick-head every sentence. Who says there are no similarities between Ghajini and Memento? That does not make Ghajini a “re-make” (if you need inspiration, look at #2 in your previous post). You may want to look up the dictionary on what the word means, dumbo.
It is disgusting to reason with a butt-kissing, pea-brained moron like you. I have barely managed to withhold my contempt, just enough to post this reply. Continue your tirade, but you are not fooling anyone.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write above: Just because Ghajini uses memory problems, tattoos and polaroid photos, it does not become a re-make of Memento, you wacko.
You dumb shit on steroids, we’ve now given you three chances to dispute/refute our long list of similarities between Ghajini and Memento. It’s obvious that a lily-livered poltroon like you with a pea-brain just does not have the cojones to pick up the gauntlet.
Schmuck, even the legal blogs are citing our review. That should give you pause. But when has anything ever given a blithering idiot like you pause.
Only a dolt like you would live in denial. Ghajini is stolen shit.
Once again, here is the long list of similarities between Memento and Ghajini:
1. Both movies deal essentially with the story of a young man suffering from an unusual disability – the inability to form new memories for longer than a few minutes (As Leonard Shelby explains in Memento to the motel clerk: If we talk for too long, I’ll forget how we started).
2. Both movies focus on a young male protagonist who is extremely focused on extracting revenge for the murder of his loved one (wife in the case of Memento and girlfriend in Ghajini).
3. Both movies have a male protagonist whose short-term memory problems are caused by a violent blow to the head as he rushes to save his wife/girlfriend from a brutal attack.
4. Both movies highlight the use of tattoos by the protagonist on his body as a technique to remember important facts because it’s a permanent way of keeping a note (as Leonard says in Memento).
5. Both movies have the protagonist using a polaroid camera to take instant pictures of people and objects to aid his memory and organize his life.
6. Both movies highlight a striking and unforgetable tattoo on the male protagonist’s chest – Find Him…Kill Him.
7. Both movies display a protagonist who photographs the people he kills.
8. Both movies have a protagonist who keeps the camera on the left side of his body inside a coat.
9. Both movies feature a woman who helps the male protagonist in ultimately killing the murderer (Natalie in Memento and Chitra in Ghajini).
10. Both movies feature a bloody murder by the male protagonist in the first 15 minutes or so.
11. Both movies show the protagonist shaking the polaroid picture with his left hand after it comes out of the camera (after the first murder).
12. Both movies present the protagonist using an elaborate paper chart on the wall with photographs to keep track of the bad fellas involved in the death of his loved one.
13. Both movies include a scene in which the protagonist trusses up a person with duct tape and hides him into a closet
14. Both movies showcase the constant use of polaroid photographs by the protagonist to distinguish between friends (Natalie in Memento, Chitra in Ghajini) and enemies (Teddy in Memento, Lakshman in Ghajini).
15. Both movies make it clear that the last indelible memory of the protagonist is the murder of the wife/girlfriend.
16. Both movies have a pointer on the left thigh of the protagonist reminding him to shave. Yes, the protagonist does shave the left thigh in both films.
17. Both movies show the male protagonist explaining early in the movie to a key person near his place of residence (to the apartment security guard in Ghajini and to the motel clerk in Memento) that he has a memory issue. Yes, both the security guard and motel clerk are already familiar with the protagonist’s peculiar condition.
Don’t ever come back unless you have something meaningful to say, not just a drunken rant.
Ok, sick psycopath, here is a challenge for you. If you have so much conviction in what you say, why don’t you do this:
Write to the producers of Memento, Newmarket Capital Group on how Ghajini is a remake of Memento. As Ghajini has already made in just a week, more than two-thirds ($33 million) of what Memento managed in its entire lifetime ($43.6 million), and is projected to surpass Memento’s collections in just one more week, I am sure Newmarket Capital would be interested.
If Newmarket Capital believes that Ghajini is a remake then I am sure they would negotiate with the producers of Ghajini for a settlement, or else file a lawsuit against them for intellectual property violation. After all Ghajini released in the US and that makes them prosecutable in the US.
Let them get a settlement / win the lawsuit and I will eat shit, if you want me to. May be you can represent Newmarket Capital as their negotiator 🙂
Until you do that, shut your trap and find other decent ways to make yourself feel important, you retard. Come back to me after you do that and then we’ll talk. Until then I won’t bother to respond to more your crap.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write: I will eat shit, if you want me to
You are already gorging on shit, you spineless, senseless coward. It’s just that a dumbshit like you doesn’t know it’s feasting on shit.
We’ve now given you four chances to refute our argument that Ghajini is stolen shit.
But a pusillanimous dolt like you lacks the cojones to rise up to the challenge.
Here again are the numerous similarities between Ghajini and Memento:
1. Both movies deal essentially with the story of a young man suffering from an unusual disability – the inability to form new memories for longer than a few minutes (As Leonard Shelby explains in Memento to the motel clerk: If we talk for too long, I’ll forget how we started).
2. Both movies focus on a young male protagonist who is extremely focused on extracting revenge for the murder of his loved one (wife in the case of Memento and girlfriend in Ghajini).
3. Both movies have a male protagonist whose short-term memory problems are caused by a violent blow to the head as he rushes to save his wife/girlfriend from a brutal attack.
4. Both movies highlight the use of tattoos by the protagonist on his body as a technique to remember important facts because it’s a permanent way of keeping a note (as Leonard says in Memento).
5. Both movies have the protagonist using a polaroid camera to take instant pictures of people and objects to aid his memory and organize his life.
6. Both movies highlight a striking and unforgetable tattoo on the male protagonist’s chest – Find Him…Kill Him.
7. Both movies display a protagonist who photographs the people he kills.
8. Both movies have a protagonist who keeps the camera on the left side of his body inside a coat.
9. Both movies feature a woman who helps the male protagonist in ultimately killing the murderer (Natalie in Memento and Chitra in Ghajini).
10. Both movies feature a bloody murder by the male protagonist in the first 15 minutes or so.
11. Both movies show the protagonist shaking the polaroid picture with his left hand after it comes out of the camera (after the first murder).
12. Both movies present the protagonist using an elaborate paper chart on the wall with photographs to keep track of the bad fellas involved in the death of his loved one.
13. Both movies include a scene in which the protagonist trusses up a person with duct tape and hides him into a closet
14. Both movies showcase the constant use of polaroid photographs by the protagonist to distinguish between friends (Natalie in Memento, Chitra in Ghajini) and enemies (Teddy in Memento, Lakshman in Ghajini).
15. Both movies make it clear that the last indelible memory of the protagonist is the murder of the wife/girlfriend.
16. Both movies have a pointer on the left thigh of the protagonist reminding him to shave. Yes, the protagonist does shave the left thigh in both films.
17. Both movies show the male protagonist explaining early in the movie to a key person near his place of residence (to the apartment security guard in Ghajini and to the motel clerk in Memento) that he has a memory issue. Yes, both the security guard and motel clerk are already familiar with the protagonist’s peculiar condition.
Happy?
SI, in one of your comments you mentioned
“The intersection/nexus of politics+Sun TV+Big Business (movies + other businesses) is very dangerous for the common man.”
Could you write an article on this topic. Would like to read your views and the wonderful comments that follow.
Machaan, I am addicted to SI. Love to read the funny comments and the replies. I really wish I had more time to read SI blogs. Life is too busy. Wife and I work in small start ups in the Bay area with hectic schedules with 2 small kids. Sometimes, we don’t have time to return phone calls and socialize on weekends.
I am sure you have a full time IT job with wife and kids. How do you find time to run this blog Superman? Do you do this alone or do you have help? Why do you run this blog and spend so much time replying to all these comments. What do you gain from this? Just curious.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. Some ideas for longer pieces on both India and the U.S. are germinating in our mind.
One of them will partially address the dangers inherent in the nexus of politics+Sun TV (movies, media + other businesses) + other big businesses.
This nexus has the potential to turn into a vicious cycle for the masses and a virtuous cycle for the privileged few.
Karunanidhi is a turd-pile as evidenced by juvenile antics like indefinite hunger strike lasting a few hours, describing LTTE terrorist Prabhakaran affectionately as his good friend, his Chinu Veedu, allotting election tickets to multiple family members et al.
Even if some actions of the loose paiya are attributed to political exigencies, they leave a very astringent taste in the mouth.
2. You write: How do you find time to run this blog Superman? Do you do this alone or do you have help? Why do you run this blog and spend so much time replying to all these comments. What do you gain from this? Just curious.
We look at SI as an entertainment channel, albeit in a blog format, targeted at the diaspora and the Indians back home (more so the Tamil and Hindi-speaking folks, for now).
SI is also a business. Running a frequently updated blog with diverse content is a fairly expensive proposition (though it may not appear so at first glance).
So at some point we will have have to consider charging a fee of about $6 a month (two Starbucks Tall lattes?). No business can survive for long without generating revenues.
im surprised you only liked Suttum Vizhi, i quite liked Oru Maalai, it had a good tune and the picturisation wasn’t so bad…(the worst, most revolting song was probably that X-Machi Y-machi song with Nayanthara, absolutely gross)
and also, Tamil Ghajini was a lot better than the Hindi one, in the acting department and also the music department (A.R.Rahman disappointed me big time)…the BGM in the tamil one was pretty cool…
and also, i think you have reviewed this film waaaay too harshly…im sure if you hadn’t seen Memento, you would have like the movie….
Asin is a lot better than those pathetic actress that are ‘ruling’ tamil cinema (Shriya, Nayanthara, Trisha)…personally, i feel that it should be Sneha, Bhavana, Tamanna…(i would have included Sandhya and Priyamani, but they’ve been acting in pretty awful movies recently)
anyways,back to Ghajini, i liked the movie a lot…
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. You write:i think you have reviewed this film waaaay too harshly…im sure if you hadn’t seen Memento, you would have like the movie….
Ghajini is stolen shit, plain and simple.
2. You write above: Asin is a lot better than those pathetic actress that are ‘ruling’ tamil cinema
Ruling or ruining? You meant ‘ruining,’ right? 😉
Asin is as bad as the other clowns that are ruining Tamil movies.
Asin is a midget in every sense of the term – Mentally, physically, acting-vice, morally (remember, that A-sinful piece of shit handsomely benefited from theft).
3. You write: the worst, most revolting song was probably that X-Machi Y-machi song with Nayanthara, absolutely gross
We agree 1,000,000%.
Just watched Nayantara in X-Machi on Youtube. Puked all over our keyboard. 🙁 The woman belongs in a zoo.
Jiah Khan was a 1,000,000% better in Latoo in the Hindi version of Ghajini.
As wrote in our review of the Hindi Ghajini:
4. You write: i quite liked Oru Maalai, it had a good tune and the picturisation wasn’t so bad.
The picturization for Oru Maalai has been beaten to death in Tamil films. Virtually every Tamil movie has a song with the Hero ‘dancing’ to a song in the company of a bunch of chimps.
Watched Memento yesterday night and a very big, gigantic THANK YOU to SI for suggesting an absolute gem of a movie!! 🙂
The most impressive stuff of the lot was Christopher Nolan’s way of story-telling, direction & the unbelievable screenplay which has both black & white as well as coloured scenes to show the present & the past!!
The screenplay was so realistic & brilliant that it clearly portrayed the pandemonium and the jeopardised thinking of a short-time memory loss patient!!
And also SI should not be held accountable for all the wrath directed towards our Indian movie-makers as even I got an idea about the buffoonish & amateurish treatment given here to the screenplay!!
You know, it is said here Aamir has said in some press interview that he saw Memento but couldn’t understand it. Also it seems he has said that his Ghajini is better as his Ghajini is ‘simple’ to understand & not complex like Memento.
Sad. Your views?
SearchIndia.com Responds:
‘Simple’ movie for the simpletons!