Movie Critics Tear Apart Dasavatharam
Dasavatharam is the second dud in a row from Tamil film star Kamal Haasan.
If Vettaiyaadu Vilaiyaadu (2006) was a bitter pill to swallow for Kamal Haasan’s fans, Dasavatharam is a bigger disappointment because of the heightened expectations raised by the ten roles Kamal plays in this movie.
An incomprehensibly mediocre movie, it’s a shame that Dasavathaaram is the best that someone with 35+ years in the Tamil movie business can come up with.
A total mess of a story is compounded by a mostly so-so performance by Kamal Haasan (except in some roles like the Indian intelligence officer Balram Naidu, Patti and Rangaraja Nambi) and below par music.
Since Kamal Haasan also takes credit for the story, screenplay and dialogs in Dasavatharam, it’s only right that the major discredit for the movie should also accrue to this manga madaya (stupid fellow).
If the overall story – with the distracting side stories – is a jumbled mess, the dialogs are hopelessly banal. No life in them at all. Even a movie like Mozhi featuring a bunch of B-grade stars like Prakash Raj and Prithviraj had better dialogs.
Much of the movie centers around the efforts of a U.S.-based scientist Govind Ramasamy (Kamal Haasan’s primary role in the movie) desperately trying to safeguard a deadly germ vial (containing a strain of the Ebola virus?) and prevent it from falling into the hands of a really nasty element called Christian Fletcher (Kamal Haasan again).
The fight to grab the deadly vial that starts in the U.S. ultimately ends in India after many boring detours.
Some of the roles that Kamal plays in Dasavatharam like the activist Vincent Poovaraghan, George W.Bush, the singer Avtar Singh, the 7-ft tall Kalifulla Khan and the Japanese martial arts expert Shingen Narahashi were very poorly fleshed out.
It was as if these characters were included just to hit the magic number of ten and justify the title of the movie. An example once again of the sloppy work by Kamal in the story department.
Makeup work for the many roles Kamal Haasan plays in Dasavatharam is a mixed bag.
While the makeup was decent for the Indian RAW officer Balram Naidu, Rangaraja Nambi and Patti (grandma), it was sub-mediocre for some of the others, particularly Christian Fletcher and George Bush.
Mallika Sherawat’s pole dance number in Dasavatharam is one of the crudest and most disgusting dances we’ve had the misfortune to ever see in a long life.
Plain awful.
Even the late Silk Smita used to do a better job in these voluptuous dance scenes.
None of the songs had any magic in them.
Himesh Reshammiya’s music failed to evoke much enthusiasm in the audience and several members of the audience at the Multiplex Cinemas in East Windsor (New Jersey) were walking out during the song/dance sequences.
One of the few saving graces of Dasavatharam was Asin Thottumkal’s performance. In her role as Andal, a conservative Brahmin girl from the temple town of Chidambaram as well as in an earlier brief appearance as Kothai, wife of a 12th century Vaisnavite devotee Rangaraja Nambi (Kamal Haasan), Asin brings some life to this dreary movie.
The other saving grace in Dasavatharam was the special effects, usually hopelessly crude in Tamil movies. Some of the Tsunami scenes as well as some of the action scenes were nicely done.
Dasavatharaam reminds us of all the weird things crazy people do just to get noticed or make it to the Guinness Book – eating 500 burgers, standing upside down for two days, walking backwards for three weeks, dancing on a buffalo’s back, fighting with a donkey or some other equally silly antic. Kamal Haasan tries a similar attention-grabbing gimmick – for the first time, 10 different roles in a movie.
So what? It’s still a lousy movie and overall a bad freak show.
If a crappy fiasco like Dasavatharam is all that we can expect from Kamal Haasan after forking out $15 for a ticket, it’s time this dinosaur of the Tamil movie industry moves on to less taxing pursuits, like aadu, maadu maikara vela (a cowherd, grazing goats and cows).
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The above review sucks big time. You have not got any divine right to call Kamal a dinosaur. If you want Kamal to take goats for grazing i ve gota job for you and its too descent a job to tell you.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Really?
Who the hell is the reviewer??? a retarted??? i believe so…whoever the hell he is pls respect filmaking, an art….Never ever review any movie in your life….You aren’t fit to do it. you totally suck!!! if you ever a man, reply
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write above: Never ever review any movie in your life….You aren’t fit to do it.
Never ever post a comment on a Tamil movie review in your life….You aren’t fit to do it.
There are no words to say abt ur knowwledge bull shit [trash talk] u dont hav the brain to comment on any of the great works i would say…….finally a word u [trash talk] who gave u the money and how much it is? to comment like this i am sure u r defenitely rajini fan i supppose………..baad
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You brainless twit, how do you live with yourself? Must be very hard, eh?
Dasavathaaram – one of the great works?
Far from it.
Well said..you are soo right..its absolute waste of time and money..i was so disappointed to see his performance in dasavatharam..
I really appreciate the fact that Kamal Hassan had taken pains in getting into 10 different characters but neither the make up was done well nor the characters were well plotted..
I’m sure this movie is going to be a super duper flop and i guess they could have invested 1.65 billion in a better way,
bad luck kamal!
Trash Talk
Excellent review. Only Truth!
Kamal, starts his mistake from name ‘Ulaganayagan Kamal’. In Tamil he says ‘Ulaganayagan Kamal’ and he says the same in English ‘Universal Hero’
Keep on misusing the Tamil fans.
Just hype nothing from him…
Excellent review. Truth spoken!
Treat for kamal fans. Some of the roles may have been done away with as the reviewer pointed out, but on the whole a lot better than the other trash we see doled out on tamil movie viewers like Kuruvi,Billa etc. Worth a watch.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
We agree with you that Dasavatharam is a lot better than other trash like Kuruvi, Billa, Azhagiya Tamil Magan, Indiralogathil Na Azhagappan etc. But our expectation from movies featuring Kamal Haasan & Rajinikanth is also much higher.
Nice way to get attention…..
but one has to remember people are no more fools to believe u.. thanks for review……
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Have you even seen Dasavatharam?
Maybe, you ought to watch the movie first & then we’ll be willing to listen to your prattle.
OH MY GOD! what a blasphemous review???? This guy is either a total lunatic who escaped some wierd asylum, or a die hard vijay or rajini fan with vengeance for kamal. Can you beleive this guy said vettayadu vilayudu was a flop???
People like you with Such a screwed sense of reality are what completely screws tamil movies.
The movie is plain AWESOME! the idea of the movie, the final tsunami scenes and kamals plain genious are evident through out the movie. The spectacle of seeing kamal fight kamal watched by kamal was absolutely spell binding. The music score was average, but apart from that the screen play and the way the stories of all the ten characters cumulate in the end are what make this movie a master peice.
watch the movie with you family, you will love it.. and.. somebody please send this guy back to the asylum!
SearchIndia.com Responds:
If Dasavatharam is what you consider a masterpiece, then you must truly be a head-less wonder.
As we said in our review: If a crappy fiasco like Dasavatharam is all that we can expect from Kamal Haasan after forking out $15 for a ticket, it’s time this dinosaur of the Tamil movie industry moves on to less taxing pursuits, like aadu, maadu maikara vela (a cowherd, grazing goats and cows).
Perhaps you ought to join Kamal.
appanae, arivu sikarame, unnai pola adimuttaluku enna theriyum cinema patri, kadha tum ek paagali ho ga, donkey doesn’t know carnatic music. FACT. Prandha, enathanu ezhuthanathu nokittu ezhuthada pichi. bahuth ho gayi, ofcourse ur review is remarkable, excellnt., ur language is fantastic, highly attractive. Kya confused? mutal ur vimarsanamum ippadithan.
SearchIndia.com Responds;
Have you tried shock treatment for your mental ailment? We recommend 1,500 volts in your case.
hey… indha arivu jeeviya yendha zoo la pudichangappa? nalla irukkura yendha padathukkum ivan olunga review eludhi naan paarthathu kidaiyathu… ellarurm solra mathiri, ivan unmailaye oru loosu than…
SearchIndia.com Responds:
This is not the Dina Thanthi blog.
Please post your comments in English. Occasional use of a Tamil word is fine but do NOT post the entire comment in Tamil. Otherwise, how would readers know what a schmuck you are.
The noise (your above comment) seems eerily similar to the noise emanating from red bottom monkeys.
Before I say what i want to say u should know that I love all your movie reviews and this one is no exception. But you don’t seem to appreciate the effort kamal put in making this film (u’r right, he could’ve done better!!), an effort which which we hardly see in tamil cinema anymore. I mean how often do u see the application of Chaos theory in a tamil movie, apart from other themes like religion vs. science, and biological warfare. It was a very good atempt to bring something new to commercial hell (tamil cinema.) Yes, the story and the screenplay were weak, and yes you have every right to criticize the movie for every single flaws it has, but you should also give credit in your review for using different concepts other than the usual formula (boy meets girl, boy falls in love with girl…… enough said)
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You are right. Much effort has gone into the making of Dasavatharam. But sadly, it was all for naught.
By the way, there was a Tamil movie called E (Jeeva, Pasupathy, Ashish Vidyarthi & Nayantara) that also focused on biological weapons.
Hey, this is something offtopic. You should also review old movies like Sigapu Rojakkal, Uthiripookal, Anjali, other K.Balachandar, Balu Mahendra, J. Mahendhran movies, and recent past movies like Veyil, Anjathe, Paruthi Veeran, etc. Its just a thought/sugestion. Thank You
SearchIndia.com Responds:
We have seen many of Kamal Haasan’s movies including Sigapu Rojakkal (good), Aadu Puli Aattam, Sattam En Kaiyil, Moonram Pirai, Nayagan, Apoorva Sagodharargal, Thenali, Indian, Hey Ram, Virumaandi, etc. Veyil was OK (Pasupathy was very good).
[trash talk]………. first write a review of a film which you like …….let me check your pea size intellect.. never again in your live write a review for a film [trash talk]
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Pea size intellect?
You must have been looking in the mirror!
ur review is [trash talk] and is an absolute crap. u compare kamalji with any of the other indian heros who know nothing but doin same old crap and earning money and contributing nuthing but art. but wen kamalji does something in the name of creativity and succeeds too, some *ickhead reviewers like u publicise it wrongly, give wrong comments reviews etc, and hence the creativity is damped… and it fills the minds of other artists with a fear of being criticised “unnecessarily” and they too fear to try..
indeed.. even the “pea sized intellect” may not be available with u wen u compared “E” with Dasa .. u indeed should shop for some mind games to make u sharper.
first please temme who do u consider a benchmark before telling kamal’s movies are bad.. so that we can reply tat way cuz tat wud let ppl know what is ur expectation
each of kamalji’s movies is a masterpiece to me, whatever be the reaction frm the market.lot of effort has gone in for making tat. instead of appreciating that u just write some shit on ur blog. who experiments so much without fear? if u cant water the creativity in this living legend, better keep quiet and let him do what he wants. no body including kamalji wanted ur great review. nobody’s gonna suffer a loss if he doesnt get $15 frm u. all others are happy with his movies back here – in india i paid 400 bucks almost 10$ for the second day show and am satisfied tat it was worth it!!
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Some people are born stupid, some achieve stupidity & some have stupidity thrust on them.
Guess, you fall in all three categories.
1. Your “Kamalji” is not the only decent actor around.
There are plenty of good actors. India – Pasupathy, Nana Patekar, Vikram, Naseeruddin Shah, Konkona Sen-Sharma, Tabu, etc. Hollywood – Johnny Depp, Robert Redford, Robert De Niro, Viggo Mortensen (U.S.), Marion Cotillard (French) etc.
2. A lot of effort goes into every movie. In fact, a lot of effort goes into most things in life except aberrations like your above comment.
3. Dasavatharam was definitely not a masterpiece. It is a very mediocre work with a poor story, bad makeup for some characters like Christian Fletcher and George W.Bush, sub-par music and inadequate character development for some roles.
Dasavatharam is just another freak-show. Like all these asinine tricks people try to get their name into the Guinness records book.
Dai maatu mandaya unakku ennada theriyum padatha pathi
padatha paathu enjoy panra..kuruviya pathi enna ninaikirada?
kuruvi, billava vida ithu evvalavu nalla padamnu thriyumada unakku?
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Dai Panni Munji (Hey, Pig’s Face),
This is not a Tamil blog. Pl post in English although occasional use of Tamil words is fine.
This is what we think of Kuruvi & Billa.
You are right. Dasavatharam is light years ahead of Kuruvi or Billa in quality.
But keep in mind that expectation from Kamal Haasan is also far higher than from podi pasanga (kids) like Vijay or Ajith.
“There are plenty of good actors. India – Pasupathy, Nana Patekar, Vikram, Naseeruddin Shah, Konkona Sen-Sharma, Tabu, etc. Hollywood – Johnny Depp, Robert Redford, Robert De Niro, Viggo Mortensen (U.S.), Marion Cotillard (French) etc. ”
I Didn’t know these were also being parallely reviewd on this page where I can see only dasa’s review.. man, u missed Marlon Brando, Al Pacino, n many more.. so better stop googling for info… and see what is being discussed..
first answer my question in my previous post:
“first please temme who do u consider a benchmark before telling kamal’s movies are bad.. so that we can reply tat way cuz tat wud let ppl know what is ur expectation”
if
1) not so strong story line (which a normal kamal movie always has)
2) make up not made into 100% perfection
3) “sub-par music” of course kamal was not the music director.
4) “inadequate character dev” ( ????? are u insane?)
are your problems, then u sure accept that kamal is gr8 in his work!!
his acting is wat is being praised and worshipped by us and he stood out distinctively ahead.
temme some other Indian movies where the double or more roles were better than any of Kamalji’s??
– appu raja/apoorva sahothargal
– michael madhana kamarajan
– indian
– avvai shanmugi
– anbe sivam (both the characters – before n after accident)
can these be compared with soem other punk here in India?? ?
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. We have made reference to Al Pacino (for his fine performances in Scarface, Serpico, Godfather, etc) & Brando too on earlier occasions in this blog.
2. Are you a blithering idiot? Should we send you a book Learn English through Tamil in 365 days? As we clearly indicated in the Dasavatharam review, poor story, insipid dialogs, so-so acting by Kamal in some of the roles and weak character development are some of the glaring weakness – Kamal is responsible for all these flaws.
The roles of Vincent Poovaraghan, George W.Bush, the singer Avtar Singh, the 7-ft tall Kalifulla Khan and the Japanese martial arts expert Shingen Narahashi were very poorly fleshed out. It was as if these characters were included just to hit the magic number of ten and justify the title of the movie. In addition, there is the sub-par music & poor makeup for some characters. The makeup for one of the main characters in Dasavatharam Christian Fletcher is beyond pathetic.
Even tiny tots in Fancy Dress competitions in Vaniyambadi corporation schools would have better makeup than Christian Fletcher in Dasavatharam.
All of the weaknesses come together to deliver a freak show called Dasavatharam.
3. You write above: his acting is wat is being praised and worshipped by us
A lot of Tamils worship Khusboo too literally (via temples) & figuratively. Does that make Khusbhoo a great actress?
4. We are not comparing Kamal Haasan to podi pasanga (kids) like Vijay, Ajith, Simbhu etc. As we’ve said ad nauseum, ad infinitum, expectation from Kamal Haasan is always higher compared to the above kids.
5. It’s irrelevant to Dasavatharam review whether someone was better than Kamal in a double/triple role in the past. How does it matter what the price of Vengayya (onions) is in Villupuram or New Jersey? It’s not relevant to the Dasavatharam discussion.
first of all.. am not tamil.. and i can just understand tamil and speak to an extent.. all was learnt for kamalji’s movies.. I hail frm Jaipur and i have proficient skills in English.. so u dont have to suggest.. but its true that [trash talk] .. btw.. u may be a blithering idiot for writing such a worst review.. so go [trash talk].. and stop cursing the visitors to ur [trash talk] ..
SearchIndia.com Responds:
By your own admission, you only have a limited understanding of Tamil (we think you have a limited understanding of everything).
And here you are blabbering away to eternity about “Kamalji”, his old movies and Dasavatharam.
Did someone set fire to your tail, Hanumanji.
You write: I hail frm Jaipur and i have proficient skills in English
Who cares whether you hail from Jaipur or Bhagalpur or whether you are proficient in English or Mandarin. All we know is that you are deficient in commonsense or any kind of sense for that matter.
Scoot, kiddo.
Go play with your dolls. This forum is for grownups. Not for sophomoric clowns like you.
I read all your comments. everybody can express their own views. always keep it in mind that we don’t need to use harsh words to reply. educated peoples won’t do that.
thanks,
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Sure, Grandma. Everyone can express their views as long as they don’t abuse us, threaten us harm & use filthy language.
As you can see (if only you could), we don’t shy away from posting negative comments about our reviews.
I’m an ardent fan of Kamal Hassan.
what you said was right. Sub-par movie, unnatural make up’s, even though he has tried to justify tsunami the screenplay remained illogical and dud, ridiculous dialogues, high investment yet the camera work was not that good, asin thottumkal’ character tortured somewhat, Dasavatharam did’n’t live up to it’s expectations.
First 10 mins of the movie and the tsunami graphics were really good. Some dialogues were enjoyable.
I liked your reviews for most of the films. This review too. But you have degraded yourself to shit just by writing some crap about kamal (manga madaya, dinosaur,etc,,).I think you have not realised his ingenuinity in anbe sivam,virumandi etc,,just for one let down it’s ridiculous to say these craps. It’s better you change it.
A request,try to review some old films of mahendran and balachander.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
For an actor with 35+ years in the film industry, to deliver a freak show like Dasavatharam is a disgrace. Only a Manga Madaya would do that.
We’ve seen Virumandi. Kamal was good in it but Pasupathy was a million times better.
We will try & bring you reviews of old movies from Mahendran & Balanchander.
Fair review,
I can’t believe Kamal crowned himself as ulaganayagan (means world hero). He is an excellent actor should focus that and leave other things to respective professionals.
What he is trying achieve? except me spending $15 and 3 hours of my precious time.
I made a decision not to watch any of his movies.
Dasavatharam is a milestone in Indian cinema and gives the right direction to the Indian cinema industry to step forward.
Not only kamal hassan’s best performances in this movie but also the techniques used in this film are wonderful.
1. I can remember I saw four kamal hassan in one scene and each role requires 10 hours of preparation and shooted in different days. Still you can feel like that each role is performed by different actors (thanks to Kamalji).
2. Especially the stunts scenes performed by fletcher kamal and japanese lady is really good.
3. The camera angles and visual effects used in this film are excellent. Don’t forget to watch the tsunami scene and eagle angle of chennai.
Don’t expect these masala items in this movie and you will enjoy!!!
1. don’t expect super hero stunts like flying 100 feet from floor 🙂
2. don’t compare this movie with high budget Hollywood movies like titanic(spent 1000 crore rs) but in this movie they spent only less than 100 crores for movie production
3. item songs or duet songs or boring love story.
This movie clearly gives us chance proud about our Indian movies
Compare Om Shanti Om (the worst picture ever done by khan) with this film
I feel pity for this site for having reviewers like this.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. You write above: Dasavatharam is a milestone in Indian cinema
Sure, Dasavatharam is a milestone freak show.
Read reviews from different critics of Dasavatharam here. We are not the only dissatisfied critics.
2. The Tsunami scenes were well shot in Dasavatharam. But that was a minor element in the movie. Overall, Dasavatharam was a piece of crap.
3. You write above: I feel pity for this site for having reviewers like this
We feel pity for your empty head. You are so blinded by your adulation for “Kamalji” that you are unable to objectively assess the movie Dasavatharam.
We agree with you that Om Shanti Om was not a great movie. We described it as a breath of stale air.
Yeah! I too agree with u! I love some of kamal’s movies and his passion on trying to make indian movies more visible to other countries. Hats off kamal.
But this movie “dasa…..” was a horrific movie! I know it’s a milestone for indian cinema to put in so much of graphics and stuff into a tamil movie! but this….. I was so happy when the movie was released! and went to watch it with tons of hope! but came out with a feeling that I can’t even express with words…..! I was so so damn disappointed….. and like someone said some of kamal’s makeup was damn horrific….. espcially the tall kamal wow! most of the kamal’s makeup was damn visible! it looked like it was done juz for the sake of showin in 10 kamal…..! this whole movie was like a show off for make up artist…. tatz all….. extremely sorry kamal! this was a damn disappointment….. Gudluck next time….! waste of time and money…..
The reviewer.. sheesh what do i say bout him… this site is completely biased ( against kamal) and the reviewer beleives he can prove everyone wrong by using language against those who get angered by his review. You think ur smart ass use of words would make u a smart ass???
Get real… Your review sucks big time and your response to each of the comments posted here are even more crap than anything else.
[trash talk]
Jeez… go get a life. Lol.. sucker!
SearchIndia.com Responds:
We are not biased for or against anyone. The fact of the matter is Dasavatharam sucks big time.
And we are not the only ones saying that. Look at the critical comments on Dasavatharam from by a whole bunch of reviewers.
I have always liked Kamal Hassan’s movies and there is no doubt that this movie did not turn out to be an exciting package on the whole but we still can’t totally deny the fact that he was excellent in most of the roles even thought they don’t fit into the story line very well. He has played his roles well individually, we need to agree on that.
After the movie i came back thinking that this is a very “OK” movie but after reading your very harsh review i really think that Kamal as an actor deserves some more respect keeping in mind his earlier performances.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
The audience deserves respect too keeping in mind their long-standing devotion to this actor.
You can’t shovel a movie like Dasavatharam down the throats of the audience & expect respect. Kamal is not Simbhu, Ajith or Vijay. A veteran with 35+ years in the movie business is not expected to deliver a freak show like Dasavatharam.
I haven’t seen this movie yet.. but heard the songs..
One of the songs (ulaganayagane) speaks only about kamal and his extradionary(!?) talents.. also expresses his excessive obsession towards Oscar.. so cheap..
what the hell this got to do with the storyline..
ordinary ones like vijay does the same shit of hero worship.. what way kamal stands out of that shit pit .. I don understand… After hearing that song itself I assumed this gonna be a very ordinary one and gonna be a flop.. same reflects in the review… my deep regrets to Ravichandran.. who gave many hits…
Hi Mr. Reviewer,
U talk about not abusing others over here, but I find you abusing some of them. If u r dare enough to write a review then u got accept others opinion about u.
R u the guy who likes mushy movies?
I am surprised u said Vetayadu Velayadu was a disappointment for Kamal fans, Excuse me, did u really understand the concept of the movie?
I am not a KAMAL fan but I admire his movies coz hez the only one who can bring changes to the boring cinema world. Letz be practical, Vetayadu Velaydu was an amazing story line and the way he tries to solve the case was simply superb. Do u remember the scene were he calculates the time the kidnap would have taken place? That was amazing.
If u think that movie was trash, then I would suggest u to visit and read few real crime stories in crimelibrary website. It would do a lot of good for your thinking ability and to know the reality and to be much broad-minded w.r.t to the things happening around u.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Sure, we are willing to accept & publish all shades of opinons as long as folks don’t resort to abuse, threats & filth on our blog just because they don’t like what we write. We respect Gandhi but we are not willing to turn the other cheek.
You write above: R u the guy who likes mushy movies?
We just like good movies – Tamil, Hindi, English, French etc.
Vetayadu Velayadu was worse than an episode in Law & Order.
I like your reviews – I dont watch the movies you write about but I come here often only to read your critique. I love the way you handle most of the jerks here! Your responses are hilarious!
Some guys have claimed they haven’t understood chaos theory which plays such an important part in the film. As a physics student, I’ve decided to explain it a bit so that people can appreciate the brilliance of the film.
What is Chaos?
Basically a chaotic system is one wherein long term predictions are impossible. Like for example, if I push a car, I know that it is going to move and it will continue to do so if I go on pushing it on and on. However, in a chaotic system, this situation cannot be predicted over a long period of time. Weather, for example, is a chaotic system. No matter how good your instruments are, you simply cannot predict the weather with 100 per cent accuracy over a long term basis and forecast it.
What is the Butterfly Effect?
It is the most important component of a chaotic system. Basically, small perturbations results in amplifications which completely destroys the original nature of the system and makes prediction impossible. If a butterfly flaps its wings in Africa, it could result in a cyclone in USA.(Mark the word COULD.) A highly dumbed down explanation of the butterfly effect is in the film Anniyan, where Vikram’s sister dies because a liquor shop owner sells liquor on a dry day.
OK, how does Dasa incorporate it?
In essence, Dasa talks about eight characters who are inconsequential as such, but are integrated in a larger picture. Without Bush, the plane would have been called back. Without Shinghen, Govind would be dead. Without the tsunami, the world would have been destroyed. Even Krishnaveni (the old woman) plays a very important role. If she had not put the vial in the idol, maybe Govind would have recovered it then and there and a powerful weapon would have been unleashed. The very fact that it went into the idol meant that it was being accelerated to its destiny. Without Kaifulllah Khan, Govind would have never escaped… the list simply goes on.
OK, so does the film talk about theism or atheism?
Neither. It talks about how humans drive the destiny of the world.
The idol that is drowned in the sea along with Rangarajan in 12th century by Chozha king results in a fault being developed at the bottom of the ocean and creates tremors more than 800 years later. These tremors result in the Tsunami. This again is a classic case of Butterfly Effect wherein a seemingly inconsequential event (the drowning of the idol) saves Tamil Nadu from being wiped off the face of the earth.
Now tell me, does THIS movie lack a story? This movie has the most beautiful story ever attempted in Indian cinema. Unfortunately, Indian viewers and critics are obsessed with the “boy meets girl” and “revenge” themes, so they fail to see the story in this master piece.
— Chaos Theory
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Thank you, Einstein.
If Kamal Haasan had any brains, he’d have hired you to improvize the story. Seriously, not kidding here. You have a nice way of putting together things in a cogent manner.
The story penned by Kamal does not come through neatly in the movie. It was so “chaotic.”
Dasa is mentioned in wiki page on butterfly effect..
have a look..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_effect
Hi Reviewer
iam really upset on reading the review.your review is not accepted by many,it shows your review is not correct.
how can you review a film like this?? dont you like his acting in any of the scenes??
do watch the film well and write the review.
CONCLUSION: You dont know to write reviews.Try to learn how to write it.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
As we mentioned in Para 4 of our review, we did like Kamal in his roles of the Indian intelligence officer Balram Naidu, Patti and Rangaraja Nambi.
You write above: your review is not accepted by many,it shows your review is not correct
Om Shanti Om resonated well at the box office (which means it was accepted by many, to use your language). Does that make Om Shanti Om a great movie?
search india has given good review superb job keep it up….
really i cant find any review like this great job monkey… well done donkey….. yeah im telling to you, but you racist… understand one thing i am not die hard fan of kamal but still… you freak ass….. first we have to review you later movie okk…. anyway i dont want you to respond on it because this is my last visit to this site….. it would be waste of time….. hahaah hohoha
east or west kamal is best…..
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Unlike the rest of us, you seem to have missed the evolution cycle. Do you walk on all fours?
You write above: this is my last visit to this site
Good riddance to bad rubbish. You add no value to the Dasavatharam discussion. Of course, we don’t expect meaningful contribution from apes.
there is no one in worldcinema who have understood cinema more than kamalhaasan. he knows about scrennplay editing acting makeups music singing etc etc. even the so called great alpacino dont no anything other than acting.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Were you drunk when you posted the above comment?
Have you even seen Dasavatharam?
You write above: Kamal Haasan knows about scrennplay editing acting makeups music singing etc etc
What does the etc etc include – making coffee, cooking on the sets, running errands?
Stop this blind adulation & look at our Tamil film stars objectively.
SearchIndia.com:
I like the you respond to the Kamal fanATICS.
Excellant hilarious and fitting replies…
A good review. I thought Tamils are phlistines and incapable of appreciating a good, non commercial movie. But I was wrong because somebody a Tamil From America wrote this excellent review. I agree with him. If U can let me know who wrote this piece I would like to involve intellectual conversation with him.
it amazes me at how contradictory people get at times…
first a person states we shud not be unfair and take sides..then the same person starts his comment by sayin..as a kamal fan…ithink the movie was amazing…bullocks!
like duh!ur his fan,even if his movie was a massive flop ull still defend it sayin it was amazin n that people dont know how to appreciate his acting…
honestly,kamal hassan deserves a pat,no,lots of pats on his back for his effort.his energy in the characters portrayed were good but like one of the comments i read,which said he cud have done more for certain characters were true too…
the make up,cinematography and acting by the main characters like asin were slightly above average…but my friends…dear ardent kamal diehard hardcore ill do anythin for kamal fans, whut was exactly the story of the movie?…..
a vial that has contagious deadly virus,rich guy wanna sell it to make more money,all the unnecessary drama,boogie nights wit malika///wtf…whut was all tht for? plus the music was seriously bad mate…except for the last song that was ok actually…
now proly all u hardcore fans out there are gonna have much to say…but if u have conscience, ask ur self is this movie worth all the hype that was created? pls dun only consider the fact kamal did 10 diff roles but also the strength of the stroyline…music and stuff…
cheers folks..till the next review on yet another star rajini n his movie kuselan…god knows whut to expect from tht..cheers
hahaha.
Great Review. I have been Kamal fan all my life and I am done with him.
few more additions to the above review
I thought Asin was the usual Heroine in tamil Movies crying all the time as wife of Nambi and too loud and boring as Andal
The CG was abysmal. Kamal’s effort on trying to compete with Hollywood movies is a joke. Terminator 2 made 17 years back has better CG than dasav. The Tsunami scene was very average as well. If you want to see a good CG on a disaster watch movies like Twister, Day After Tomorrow and I am Legend.
I still respect Kamal. I dont think he is a aadu…I think he is a legend . Kamal should stick to simple movie making like Guna, Anbe Sivam, Michael Madana Kamrajan. All this Hoopaholla must stop with making a movie for 100 crores. As long us our stars like Rajini , Manoramma and KB give rave reviews which are un real and keep pegging one another up, we would never move away from adulation which is not objective .
I went to a theatre with 15 in NJ. Many were kamal fans. All were disappointed
SearchIndia.com Responds:
We loved I am Legend too. Can’t remember much about Terminator (seen them long back).
You are right – in terms of special effects, Bollywood & Kollywood are way behind. We doubt they can ever catch up. Have you tried watching Netflix movies on a Roku box ($99). Good.
This review about dasavatharam is completely crap. People if you have stayed on this page long enough to come read my post.. trust me, the movie is worth watching.
Things about this review that completely throw it off target are:
1. This guy says vetayadu velayudu was a flop! to quote he says its worse than an episode of law and order.. what kind of wierd comparison is that??? a tamil movie and an english sit com???
2. He says the screen play is bad.. bullcrap!! the screen play is fantabulous and a few videos on youtube would prove that to you.
3. the last song about kamal singing he is ulaga nayagan… see the song and u will understand why the song is worded that way… the pains he has gone through to change costumes which takes minimum 3 hours to put on and he had to do it for ten different roles!! and when rajini calls himself superstar, or vijay calls himself ilaya thalapathi, or simbu little super star, its all perfect.. but when kamal is ulaga nayagan.. there is a hue and cry…
4. and this is most valid point… the reviewer has no brains…plain and simple… He just believes he has the rights to slander all kamals fans here.
watch the movie.. and you will love it!
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Your rants convince us that you must have been dropped on your head one too many time when you were a child. You are living proof that some head injuries linger forever.
We are not the only reviewers unhappy with Dasavatharam.
Stop frothing at the mouth over an objective review of Dasavatharam.
Hi People…
Dasavatharam is definitely below par for the kind of money spent…
We definitely expected better dialogues, Music, Cinematography, screenplay, and editing.
Kamal simply got into unwanted territories through the movie with some awful and irritating crazy Mohan dialogues. While the plot was international the execution was utterly the Indian B grade. But what has to be appreciated is an attempt to deliver a strong theme The “Chaos Theory”…Though the 10 different get ups were not up to the mark, the reasoning given to construct the 10 avatars is spell bounding….”The typical Chaos theory phenomenon”….How each and every event is affecting subsequent occurrences and finally the end result. The 10 characters unwind pretty well and all the 10 contribute to the vial reaching the bay before it could be destroyed by Tsunami.
We really have to appreciate Kamal for this unconventional attempt but cannot forgive him for a very very poor execution.
Better Luck next time to Kamal and fans like us!!!
I think the review is correct and written with logic with out any bias. I too have seen this crap yesterday. The only tamil movie after Ayutha Ezhuthu and I regret my cross my decision not to see a tamil movie again. I had more hopes for Kamal but after watching this movie, he has little left to get spoiled.
Com’on guys get on to the reality. Don’t think that I am Rajini fan to do this. Instead you guys should come up with open mind and discuss with out any bias.
so much hype has been given to the film… it’s not up to the expectation may be….
Ok. I agree with the first poster that you either do NOT know how to write a review, or that you have a wonderfully bad taste in films. Out of all the reviews you have written, you have only praised a few, but mostly, 90% that is, are denounced. For Example, one of the ones you praised was Pokiri. “Pokiri – Fine Pongal Gift for Tamil Movie Lovers”. Any story that has the typical “Love” component as a large part of its story is automatically juxtaposed among the myriad of Tamil films, where the hero tries to get the heroine to love him, etc. Pokiri is another “typical” tamil film. But Dasavatharam is a different film overall. You have NEVER seen, in a Tamil film in which some 12th century event is connected to present day. The script for Dasavatharam is very well written, in comparison to the “typical” tamil film we see today. If you can not like this movie, that means you like the old love story, where the hero and heroine finally get together in the end. Love is a minor component in this film, and to bestow the title of “Breathtakingly Boring” is complete bullshit. The film was very entertaining, as the film was fast paced, and no where was there too much dialogue. And the costumes were all great, and all of Kamal Haasan’s mannerisms were perfect. To denounce such an attempt is completely ridiculous. Kamal has tried to make all of his characters share equal screen time, except the “main” hero and “main” villain characters, who obviously have more. Though the first half hour may be tough to understand, the rest is a joyous ride. And the fact that this film did not have random dances, in a dream or such, makes it completely different to the orthodox tamil film. There was only one such “dance”, but it was done in a neat manner, as a concert performance. It was necessary. The fact that Dasavatharam was a new attempt makes it a stand-out movie. To call it crappy is outrageous.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. You write above: Out of all the reviews you have written, you have only praised a few
True, we praise few movies, Tamil or Hindi. Simply because most of the Tamil & Hindi movies are utter garbage. Most Indian stars can’t act for the life of them. What would you have us do – sing paeans to every stupid Tamil/Hindi movie or every lousy actor like Abhishek Bachchan or Ajith Kumar. Of course, Kamal is a better actor compared to most Indian stars.
2. You write: one of the ones you praised was Pokiri. “Pokiri – Fine Pongal Gift for Tamil Movie Lovers”. Any story that has the typical “Love” component as a large part of its story
In Pokiri, the love/romantic angle did not constitute as large a part of the story as the violence. Love was secondary to the violence angle involving Ali Bhai (Prakash Raj) & Vijay. Pokiri was an entertainer and its box office results says it all. Vox populi, vox dei. But Vijay’s successive movies Azhagiya Tamil Magan & Kuruvi were pathetic.
3. You write: And the costumes were all great
Costumes & makeup go hand in hand.
When the makeup was so atrociously bad for some of the characters in Dasavatharam, it’s hard to focus on their costumes alone. And what about the costumes – what was so unique about it? Costumes in Dasavatharam did not stand out in Dasavatharam as it did in Shekhar Kapoor’s Elizabeth I & II.
Did you watch Dasavatharam in Black & White? The makeup was so ghastly and downright hideous for George W.Bush & Christian Fletcher that it’ll probably enter the Makeup Hall of Shame. A downright disgrace for any movie. What the heck was the director K.S.Ravikumar doing – sleeping?
4. You write: You have NEVER seen, in a Tamil film in which some 12th century event is connected to present day
Whatever may have been the original motivation in Kamal Haasan’s mind, Dasavatharam ended up as a disconnected, disjointed piece of crap whose sole objective seems to be to achieve some kind of record for playing 10 roles in a movie. How does it matter whether Kamal did 10 roles or 24 roles if some of the characters (see review) were badly developed.
Ultimately, the law of unintended consequences played out here – Dasavatharam ended up as a freak show.
5. You write: If you can not like this movie, that means you like the old love story, where the hero and heroine finally get together in the end.
Get off you crack trip. There are so many genres in movies. You seem to think there are only two genres: Dasavatharam & Love Stories.
We just noticed that your itchy fingers had put out another comment (since it’s mostly a repeat of your above comment, we’re not publishing it in its entirety but will respond to one of the points made in your second comment).
You write in the second comment: Perhaps the Chaos Theory is too much for the Tamil audiences.
We disagree with your condescending, supercilious, arrogant attitude toward the Tamil film audience. Inherent in the above statement is a disdain for Tamil film audiences because you think they are not as smart and intelligent like you. Voltaire must have been thinking of you when he wrote – He who thinks himself wise, oh heavens is a great fool.
You schmuck, contrary to what you think, The Chaos Theory is not too much for the Tamil audiences. Only chaotic films like Dasavatharam are too much for Tamil film audiences.
looks like the critic cant take any critiques him/herself. Mighty pathetic and defensive come backs to comments!
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Logic, English & Commonsense are not part of your repertoire?
Now Tat was a great reply…
I really wonder if Kamal can ever act like a normal person. All the characters that he chooses are sooo exaggerated. His spontaneity die a long long time ago and what is left is just contrived studied highly unnatural stuff which he camouflages with makeup (ugh)
[trash talk]
you are just anti india and pro USA.i have seen the movie it is rocking.i have doubt whether u understand tamil.all your reviews for tamil movies make me feels that you dont know tamil
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write above: i have seen the movie it is rocking.
And we can hear the rocks rattling in your head.
All your asinine comments make us believe that you are the washerman’s kaladhai (ass).
Blind adulation, no specifics, dubious sources – these are some of the hallmark qualities of your comments whether it’s Ajith’s Billa or Dasavatharam.
[trash talk]
SearchIndia.com Responds:
What happened? Did watching the white paint (that Kamal et al tried to fob off as makeup for dolts like you) on Christian Fletcher in Dasavatharam unhinge you?
all [trash talk] who have criticized this movie, [trash talk]
guys, critizing is simple… doing it a different thing… the magnitutde of the thought of chaos theory, which some fools on this forum would take another life to understand it, itself simply futuristic… being a rajini fan doesn’t give you the right to call a senior artist maanga madayan… who the [trash talk] are you to use such words in criticism… the next time you write a review, please refrain from such hard words… behave civilized…
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Given the filth in your comment (that we have removed), you have a nerve advising others.
This is not a Rajni fan forum nor a gathering place for retarded Kamal fans. This is a forum for objective Tamil film reviews.
Purinjada, madaya (understood, idiot)?
This reviewer likes Pokiri and not Dasa… funny..
There is ‘Nothing’ in pokiri(Remade from telugu.. Vijay copied every dot from MaheshBabu) could be marked as ‘Innovative’… (It has only a disgusting double meaning song.. ‘vadu manga oorudhu.. thair sadam ready pannu’).. if the reviewer likes that.. just imagine the ‘taste’ of the reviwer.. so dont bother about the review… its not true..
Kamal leaves lot of space in the story and screenplay for the audience to imaging and fill it up..
for example.. in the end Tsunami comes.. the guys who beleive god can take it as.. Lord renganatha has saved the world.. others… ofcource can follow with the butterfly effect (As I have mentioned in my previous posting) of chaos theory..
This is properly guided in the song ‘Kallai Mattum Kandaal kadavul theriyaadhu’ (If u see only the stone, the god is not seen, and vice versa)..
this is a style of film making were the creators leaves the space for imagination to the audience… you can feel this style in movies like ‘unusual suspects’, ‘basic instinct’ where the viewer has to fill up the untold part of the story/screenplay according to their imagination..
There may be mistakes in the project in make-up, screenplay, Self praising song, music etc.. and we can very well critisize it.. but at the same time we should appreciate the effort to bring a interesting/different movie.
guys.. am tired with Vijays, Perarasus and Simbus..
if you call Kamal a Dinosur and say Dasa is bad.. and call Pokiri is gud.. then you will never be able to see good movies in Tamil.. Dasa may not be equal to hollywood standards.. but someone has to build the first step of a long staircase to improve the quality of Tamil Cinema.. I think Kamal is one of them trying to do it..
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. If double-meaning songs or dialogs disturb you, you have no choice but to avoid Tamil movies.
Bawdy double entendres are par for the course in Tamil movies. Directors love it and Tamil movie fans lap it up.
If you are a Kamal Haasan fan, you’ll know that even some of his old movies had risque dialogs and song/dance sequences. Remember that crude Kamal-Silk Smita Nethu Rathiri song-dance sequence from Sakalakala Vallavan.
So, let’s not deify Kamal Haasan or put him on a pedestal above other Tamil stars.
2. You write above: There may be mistakes in the project in make-up, screenplay, Self praising song, music etc
What does the etc in your above sentence include? Story, acting and is anything else left to mess up?
In our humble view, the whole Dasavatharam movie was one big mistake.
You opened a thread saying that the movie is trashed by the critics but why don’t you open a thread for a movie which you dislike but is liked by other ctitics.
and before saying kamal anything you just go and watch pushpak,appu raja ,hey ram and others to know about the acting of hasan
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Sure, we will should the opportunity arise.
Readers: The above comment by ajayrocks refers to the thread Movie Critics Tear Apart Dasavatharam
Wow man! What a firing from the fans for a crap movie. I do like Kamal and his serious or light movies (Salangai Oli, Mahanadhi, Nayagan, Pesum Padam, Sippikkul Muthu, Michael Madhana Kamarajan, Thenali, Avvai Sahnmughi, Devar Magan). But this movie is a crap. Please stop the crappy comment that Tamil Fans don’t understand Chaos Theory and Butterfly Effect. Tamil’s can easily understand it (by googling it. It is not a rocket science). The same Tamil’s made few nice movies as super hit like Mozhi, Kadhal, Paruthi Veeran, Sethu and many nice films.
By praising this crappy movie, you guys expose your bias and nothing else.
I have to give two thumps up for the reviewer to bravely and strongly to openly talk about this movie.
To the reviewer: Lately I started watching Iranian movies and really liked the Crimson Gold, The Circle, Children Of Heaven, Color of Paradise… Can you recommend some nice French movies? I have to wash away the remembrance of this crappy Dasavatharam movie.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write above: Can you recommend some nice French movies?
We suggest Blame it on Fidel. We watched this movie at Cinema Village (they get nice foreign movies here) in NYC last year and just loved it. The little girl Nina Kervel-Bey in Blame it on Fidel does a far better job than most of our Tamil & Hindi film stars.
Another French movie we enjoyed was La Vie en Rose featuring Marion Cotillard.
We’ve heard good things about Roman De Gare (French) and hope to watch it soon.
We also recently watched and liked Kar Wai-Wong’s Chinese movie In the Mood for Love.
By the way, Thenali was a bad lift of What about Bob?
I dont know about US.. but in India Dasa is doing gud..
surely a box office hit.. but donno how long it will go..
I figured that I would be disappointed with Dasa. So didn’t want to waste 15$. Guess I was right. Will wait for the Ayngaran DVD to come out. This review sounds just about how I will feel if I see this movie. Sivaji and Pokkiri are the only two tamil movies I have watched in theater over the past 5 years.. I enjoyed them like a day out in the theme park.. but when I go to a Kamal movie, I expect a 3-out-of-4 star (on the hollywood scale) movie.. he has delivered many such movies, in my opinion.
Agree with your chastening of Kamal’s self-indulgent experiments. Can’t believe he screwed up with the prosthetics again.. They were nauseating in “Indian”.. but 12 years after that can’t he still figure out that they look so shabby!
I’d have to say that you were very harsh on Kamal’s acting abilities. He was on par with Pasupathy (who got the meatier role) in Virumaandi.. but Pasu can never do some of the roles that Kamal has taken up — Kamal is the greatest Indian actor in my opinion. But the madayan’s lack of humility doesn’t make us root for him when he fails. But have to admit that he still has a lot to offer to Indian cinema.
Loved your attack on the review-bashers/kamal-defenders. These guys are so used to the reviewers taking all the crap they are doling out.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write above: but Pasu can never do some of the roles that Kamal has taken up
Let’s wait & see if Pasupathy can do varied roles well. Kamal has had a much longer innings in movies compared to Pasupathy.
helloz…..i am kind of new here
anywayz…..
well…..i USUALLY dont like movies which r not thrillers or epic fantasies (with the exception of one film namely, Ghajini and now this one) ….
but heh, i think the “chaos theory” in mathematics has been portrayed in a relevant way in this movie. I cant believe how kamal came to know about it :O i can find a lot of events which lead to some other event…(one of the most prominent being, the killing of yuka by fletcher which “stimulated” Shinghen Narahashi to go after the killer who in fact was responsible for the villain’s death 🙂 )
….and i doubt that there is vague connection between nambi being sunk along with the idol of vishnu and the tsunami…..
all in all, this movie was not unrealistic like anniyan which shows a man with multiple personality disorder obtaining super human capability….”anniyan” sure must have some strong Adrenal glands 😛 …….soo it remains to be one of the very few tamil movies which i like
who is the joker running this website..it looks like one big municipal trash bin. The only thing i find in this website is trashing of indians who r trying to take india to the next level, starting from vikram pandit to kamal hassan.
If somebody has thought that shortcut to fame can be achieved by trashing big names, all that can be achieved is ending up as a toilet paper, as this site has proved.
I think all the people who trash the movie dasavatharam for the sake of trashing it dont deserve anything more than a kuruvi or kaalai.if u guys think vulgar vivek comedies and 3rd grade story lines are all that is needed to make a tamil movie, u guys should change the layman villager mindset asap.i hope all u guys grow up quickly and stop pretending to be intellectuals.
I would definitely recommend the author to get some psychiatric counselling before the matter gets out of hand.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. You write above: who is the joker running this website..it looks like one big municipal trash bin.
Did you mistake this site for the cesspool that you mistakenly consider your head.
2. As CEO of Citibank, Vikram Pandit is butchering thousands of jobs even as he feeds like a pig at the trough by taking millions of dollars in options/compensation & Kamal Haasan makes crappy freak shows like Dasavatharam. And according to you, these two great specimens are taking India to the next level.
Only a dickhead like you could think of something as asinine to type away. Please don’t ever try to take an IQ test because. there are no instruments devised as yet to measure YOUR level of stupidity.
3. You write above: u guys should change the layman villager mindset asap
So, you fatuous mongrel you think villagers are idiots while you are the reincarnation of Einstein. For a blithering idiot, you really give yourself airs.
4. Dai Kaladhai (ass), we agree with you that Kuruvi was plain awful.
5. There should be a law to prevent jackasses like you from going near a keyboard.
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Pure trash is pure trash, I mean the movie and I can’t agree with you more.
I also admire the way you are coping with heaploads of nitwitted kamal fans commenting here! But I have just one remark. Playing 10 or 20 or all the roles in a pathetically ridiculous movie doesn’t require any particular talent as such.
The trailer stupidly adverstises that for the first time, Kamal Hasan (note: it doesn’t say an(y) actor)is acting in 10 roles, but that doesn’t mean anything, and it has nothing to do with Guinness book of records. 99% of the time the people who do stunts for the Guinness book are absolutely amazing. Their extraordinary skill, courage and endurance can be really inspiring. But I resent the way you dismiss all of them as crackpots, desperadoes trying to gain some attention! Have you ever seen the Guinness Book program on AXN? Had you seen, I don’t think you would have commented thus. And I am waiting to see an explanation for your reiterated highly inappropriate comparison.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Your point on the daring folks who land a place in the Guinness Book through their skill, courage and endurance is well-taken.
Hello, this is in response to all the hoopla about chaos theory that many clueless but proud kamal fans are associating with Dasavatharam. I am not interested in tamil cinema (except for the great songs and dances I watch on tv), but the talk about chaos theory got me interested in this film, and to my surprise I found absolutely nothing at all related to it, except for some empty talk. First of all, let me clarify to you all who have two grey cells in your brains, chaos theory / butterfly effect is constantly evident everywhere in all our lives, yeah even in our mundane lives. In other words, small incidents, especially minor mistakes and oversights, can have huge consequences that can change one’s entire life and the lives of people around us. For example, if one could travel back in a time machine and alter a small critical thing in one’s past, one could be in a totally different course of life at present (‘senstivity to initial conditions’). So, please understand once for all, “chaos” is present everywhere in our world, and much more so in all the incredibly coincidental events that happen ad nauseam in Indian movies in particular, and all movies/stories in general. It is not anything clearly outlined or illustrated in Dasavatharam’s unique story (whatever that is). Let me repeat, there is nothing at all in Dasvatharam that specially portrays chaos theory so that common people can understand it. Minor, seemingly unrelated or distant events, can have major consequences. It happens all the time. If you want some examples, see some movie, any movie, or think about your own lives: what would have happened if only this small… It is possible that the whole thing could have gone on a different track. Desperate Kamal fans are interpreting the movie in this perspective, but anything at all, all history, can be interpreted in terms of chaos theory. “Cleopatra’s nose, had it been shorter, the whole face of the world would have been changed.” This is chaos theory, in essence, and this is history. So don’t go bragging that Dasavatharam depicts chaos theory, instead try to spot one story or event in history where chaos theory is not directly or indirectly applicable.
This totally confused movie_lover guy (he could be my orkut friend unfortunately) posing as a physics expert gives such a long explanation of chaos theory in a comment above – and he has no clue what he is talking about. He says: “The very fact that it [the vial] went into the idol meant that it was being accelerated to its destiny.” Now the concept of destiny is completely opposite to chaos theory! There are only so-called ‘strange attractors’ in chaos theory, not destiny. Destiny means the course of some dynamical system is predetermined or foreordained, not spontaneously and unpredictably evolving as in chaos theory. So this movie is about chaos theory or destiny? Make up your minds, kamal fans. Either way it is not one teeny weeny bit unique, if anything it is more ridiculous by far than normal movies. The guy gives a narrative of the movie saying “if this thing didn’t happen, that wouldn’t have happened, and so on and so on, and the list goes on.” But the list goes in any movie, even in all our lives, even if they are only slightly eventful. People are really getting desperate to make something out of nothing, and it is really pathetic! “The idol that is drowned in the sea along with Rangarajan in 12th century by Chozha king results in a fault being developed at the bottom of the ocean and creates tremors more than 800 years later.” What a load of bull. Heavy weights or ships falling onto ocean bed don’t create fault lines on earth’s surface! And the tsunami epicenter didn’t occur off Tamil Nadu, but thousands of miles away in pacific ocean. You idiots stop watching stupid movies and start reading children’s encyclopedias to learn a little about the world around you. And if you are so anxious to watch a reasonably good movie that is directly about butterfly effect, see “Sound of Thunder” (2005) which is also dubbed in several Indian languages.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Bravo!
Before I write something about the movie, let me tell you that I am an ardent fan of Kamal. If he does a good job, I appreciate it and if he fails, I accept it.
Coming to your review, well, I notice that you have absolutely no interest in appreciating Kamal’s talent, firstly in terms of acting. You said that it was a “so-so performance”. Tell me something, who in India could have donned the 10 roles to perfection as Kamal. Whether its the ‘finger call’ of the American ex-CIA, the pitch tone perfection of the Telugu police officer, the innocence or ignorance of the tall Afghan, the posture and walk of the Japenese and Dalit or the use of language by the patti. Well this requires detailing and Kamal has done it to perfection. I hope I have answered that you have no right to say that Kamal did a “so-so performance”
The movie’s concept works on a very simple premise. Its a take on the butterfly effect and tries to fight disorderliness but always reuslting in chaos. You have understand how the 10 avtars of Vishnu culminated to map it agains the movie’s concept on Chaos Theory. The concept is simple but you have to understand the presentation which is complex and deep. If you havent, you will definitely come up with such a review
Yes, the visual effects were a let down (considering the budget was focused on make up). some of make-up were over done (patti, Bush and Fletcher – esply when you see close up). The music and background score was very bad as well..
Indian audience has been treated with this new concept by none other than our Ulaga Naayagan and its a very good effort
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write above: Tell me something, who in India could have donned the 10 roles to perfection as Kamal
As we’ve said ad nauseum, ad infinitum, what the heck is so great about doing 10 roles. In our view, that’s just a silly gimmick to attract attention.
No, they were not done to perfection. Far from it.
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This Topic Sucks He gave His Best and u simply comment it fair ?
U idiot iTZ Betta Than Kuruvi ,Billa , ATM , “SIVAJI” Etc..
and all latest mokka films 😛
dasavatharam Rocks u fool :X
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You are right only in so so far as Dasavatharam is better than Kuruvi, Billa & ATM. Sivaji was not that great a movie either. Just a slick show.
But in and off itself, Dasavatharam and the 10 roles, Chaos theory & the Butterfly Effect were all much ado about nothing.
As Shakespeare would say, all sound & fury signifying nothing.
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Bloody… I’ve never seen any geniune reviews from this site… You guys say Hindi movies are good…. Hindi movies never had any story , simply it has item numbers, violence, under world and as usual story line with different actors… nothing would be there in Hindi movies….. even Telugu movies are good… never given good reviews .. you guys suck… stick with ur nasty Bollywood..
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write above: You guys say Hindi movies are good
What did you drink this morning? Definitely not water.
Read our Bollywood movie reviews, you schmucko
You write: even Telugu movies are good… never given good reviews
Retard, there is not a single Telugu movie review on the SearchIndia.com blog as of today.
By your very existence, you must have lowered the collective IQ of the whole Universe. Just imagine the consequences if a complete retard like you were to be allowed to reproduce.
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[trash talk] unakku vere enta velaiyum illaina [trash talk] ethukkuda nammma kamal pere keduthere naaye?
SearchIndia.com Responds:
One more Sori Naayi (rabid mongrel). Sigh!
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Machi! you are just doing great.
LOL!!! on “By your very existence, you must have lowered the collective IQ of the whole Universe. Just imagine the consequences if a complete retard like you were to be allowed to reproduce.”
hey, I just wrote three pages of a comment trying to clarify what chaos theory / butterfly effect signifies, and half an hour later some idiot again boldly proclaims: “The movie’s concept works on a very simple premise. Its a take on the butterfly effect and tries to fight disorderliness but always reuslting in chaos.” So here I go. First of all, chaos theory / complexity theory is not about chaos, it is about order, of how complex order spontaneously emerges from seeming chaos. Next, earlier that movie_lover guy said “this picture is about how humans drive their destiny,” and now this guy says “to fight disorderliness” – there may be many such statements coming from patriotic kamal fans defending their fancy kamal land to death, but hey look please, this is what we all do in our lives constantly – driving our destiny, fighting disorderliness – and so on. This is what heroes do in movies all the time. Some movies portray it in a more meaningful and moving way than others, and some like dasavatharam portray it in a more mighty muddled way, that’s all. Finally, the butterfly effect as the name implies starts with a flap of wings of an insect, or any action equivalent in its seeming insignificance. So a story effectively conveying butterfly effect should have an initial event which is utterly paltry, or one clearly identifiable tiny wrong move, which then directly cascades into a phenomenon of tremendous proportions in time. So the movie should have one definite infinitesimal initial action, and should show how step by step, stage by stage, it starts snowballing – is there anything like that at all in this movie? This guy concludes: “Indian audience has been treated with this new concept by none other than our Ulaga Naayagan and its a very good effort” – Indian audience has been treated with a new kind of blather, that’s all.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. You write above: hey, I just wrote three pages of a comment trying to clarify what chaos theory / butterfly effect signifies, and half an hour later some idiot again boldly proclaims: “The movie’s concept works on a very simple premise. Its a take on the butterfly effect and tries to fight disorderliness but always reuslting in chaos.â€
Fools rush in where angels fear to tread (to repeat an oft-repeated saying)
2. You write: So the movie should have one definite infinitesimal initial action, and should show how step by step, stage by stage, it starts snowballing – is there anything like that at all in this movie?
No.
The 10 roles or avatars, chaos theory, butterfly effect et al are just icing on a putrid cake (poorly written story).
3. The problem with our stars is that they believe all the baloney the asinine fans and film mags/web sites write about their extraordinary talent. With the result, the bad actors never show an iota of improvement. To be fair to Kamal, he definitely does not belong in the category of bad actors.
If you knew the real dasavatharams of Lord Vishnu and their characters you can appreciate the script more.
Let me explain, starting with the best adapted role:
Krishna avatar – Vincent Poovaraghavan Lord krishna is actually a dalit, he is dark-skinned [shyamalam]. He saved draupadi when she was being violated and he was the actual diplomat in mahabharatham. Lord krishna dies of an arrow striking his lower leg. Now look at how vincent was introduced.. he appears when asin is about to be molested and he saves her like draupadi. Vincent is the dalit diplomat, fights for land issue [soil issue to be exact] and dies from the metal rod striking his leg. Oh even five of vincent’s men are drugged at P. Vasu’s.. sounds familiar???
Balarama avatar – Balarama naidu This is an easy given. as the name suggests and the role personifies you can easily get it.
Mathsya avatar – Ranagaraja nambi nambi is thrown into water in an act of trying to save lord from being thrown into sea, though vainly. what more clue do you want?
Varaha avatar – Krishnaveni paatti During the mukunda song, krishnaveni paatti does varaha avatar in the shadow puppetry. The frame freezes on it for a second. there is the clue. Moreover, in varaha avatar lord actually hides earth so as to protect life forms. Here too krishnaveni hides the germs – life form inside the statue so as to protect.
Vamana avatar – Kalifulla khan remember in vamana avatar, lord vishnu takes the vishvaroopa, that is the giant form! Hence the giant kalifulla here symbolises vamana avatar.
Parasurama avatar – Christian Fletcher Parasurama is actually on an angry killing spree and killed 21 generations of the particular kshatriya vamsa. Hence the real KILLER… Guess what thats what our Fletcher is! He comes around with the gun [modern upgrade for axe] and kills everyone around. I have to check if he kills 21 people though.
Narasimha avatar – Shingen Narahashi first of all the name itself is a play on the words singam [means lion in tamil] and narasimha [the avatar being symbolised]. Lord Narasimha manifests himelf to kill the bad guy and he also teaches prahaladha. In the movie, he shows up to kill the killer fletcher! and is also a teacher.. Lord Narasimha had to kill the asura with bare hands and hence the martial arts exponent here.. get it?
Rama avatar – Avatar Singh Lord Rama stands for the one man one woman maxim, kind of symbolising true love.. Here Avatar portrays that spirit by saying that he loves his woman more than anything and wants to live for her.
Kalki avatar – Govindaraj Ramasamy As you know, the hero in kaliyug can be none other than the Kalki avatar!!!
Koorma avatar – Bush This is the most loose adaptation I couldn’t clearly comprehend. But if you look at the real koorma avatar, the lord is the turtle/tortoise that helps in stirring the ksheera sagara and bringing out the amruth. This essentially creates war among the devas and asuras. Similarly today Bush facilitates war between you know whom… May be Kamal also indicates that this avatar is a bit dumb like the tortoise…
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Even Kamal would be surprised by your reasoning. Still, you deserve credit for your interesting explanation.
There are two things i would like to mention on your
reviews.
1) You went way out to describe Kamal’s incapablaties which would convince anyone that it’s mostly unreal and pasted with only and only intentional negative review. Bravo..Job well done!! …This can definetly make anyone feel the way u wanted them to feel…including me,…Till i saw the movie. But hey sorry to disapoint you, now i am sure you are wrong.
2) Seems like you have good talent with your words, use it the right way. Write something which is worth reading…Good or bad…but should touch the facts.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write above: Till i saw the movie. But hey sorry to disapoint you, now i am sure you are wrong
What can we say? You are entitled to live in your delusionary world.
hey wat is this .silly review ….. Go and fall in any natonal permit lorry r in any express train man…
idiotic review….
stupid
have u seen the film…
nonsense
u saw the film or u waited for mallika sherawat to show her body ……..or asin’s….
silly review…
AND U R SAYIN THE PEOPLE AS SORI NAYI IDIOT.. ARIVU KATTA MUNDAMEY …..
[trash talk]……
THEV…..
u say billa is a trash ……this is very stupid
POOR ASS……
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write above: Go and fall in any natonal permit lorry r in any express train man…
To all those who still harbor doubts about the merits of Darwin’s work, you’ve just proved the theory of evolution.
You write above: have u seen the film…
We not only saw the movie…we also used the 10% off coupon that came with the ticket to dine at an Indian Restaurant!
You think everyone has your atom-sized morals.
excuse me…did u cal kamal a “manga madaya”…..?
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You are excused. Now scoot.
dai naye,
i think you have begged the director for a chance to act in this movie,since you have not got one you are barking like this ,its ok we can understand.
let me give you an idea,[trash talk] among the [trash talk] who are supporting you on this review [example:voyage2stars, hey voyage you have a big voy man, you need treatment ,consult some doctor and [trash talk] you will be cured]
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Under what bad star were you born?
So much agita over a crappy movie like Dasavathram. Ridiculous, get a life.
do u think u have enough stature r repute to call d legendary actor dat way??
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Your legendary actor is a ripoff artist. He ripped us off of $15 by providing us a sub-par movie like Dasavatharam.
dats fine…it requires a lot of guts n skill to act in d so called sub par movie dat potrays 10 characters with hectic make-up….temme ne other indian actor who could have done this…and u compare dis effort to eating 500 burgers….BS
SearchIndia.com Responds
You write above: dats fine
what do you mean by dats fine – Dollars don’t grow on trees here.
You write: u compare dis effort to eating 500 burgers
Of course, the Dasa-avatars were just a gimmick to draw in the crowds.
Thank you for coming out and saying the truth!!! Even Kamal fans have to agree Dasavatharam SUCKS…Big Big Time…He is a rip off..I lost $32.00..I took a ghori with me..Oh what a shame!!
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Our sympathies!
I read Praveennair’s comments above and I think he makes sense (about the concept of the movie). Because, I watched Kamal Hassan saying on the television last night that he’d heavily drawn from ‘Puranas’ and ‘Bharathnatyam’ to make this movie(probably, he tried to tie up ‘Chaos theory’ with ‘Dasavatharams’ of mythology). However, Kamal Hassan’s understanding of art of film making/acting in general is so skewed and gross that he manages to make every scene of his movies look like a decapitated human trunk in its last throes of death, utterly lifeless but full of animation. This one is no different.
PS: I’ve been reading readers’ comments and your responses for the past one week. They are so hilarious that you may as well kick off a contest for the visitors to pick the funniest retort for an attractive gift(for ex, free tickets for ‘Dasavatharam’). My pick is your response to neoneoneo’s comments “…Dai Kaladhai(ass), we agree with you that Kuruvi was plain awfulâ€.
Too many doubts about correlation of the movie, Chaos theory and Butterfly Effect have come into Picture….!!!
The movie clearly states about Chaos Theory and Butterfly Effect [Kamal says it in his Speech in the Movie ]
The concept of “CHAOS THEORY” and “BUTTERFLY EFFECT”, by itself is a complex concept, which mainly highlights the happening of huge unimaginable things because of least probable things…!!!!
Dasa although deals with these concept, but does not necessarily confuse anyone with it,,,, As i said earlier, its mainly “YOU”… that plays a factor in how the movie gets along with “YOU”.
You have got to be Case 1 or Case 2 as i have said earlier in this entry,,, No use being Half Baked…..!!!!
To just brief about these Concepts,
Q: What is Chaotic System ?
A: Basically a chaotic system is one wherein long term predictions are impossible.Like for example,if I push a car, I know that it is going to move and it will continue to do so if I go on pushing it on and on.However,in a chaotic system,this situation cannot be predicted over a long period of time.
Weather for example is a chaotic system.No matter how good your instruments are,you simply cannot predict the weather with 100% accuracy over a long term basis and forecast it.
Q: What is the Butterfly Effect ?
A: It is the most important component of a chaotic system.Basically,small perturbations results in amplifications which completely destroys the original nature of the system and makes prediction impossible.
If a butterfly flaps its wings in Africa,it could result in a cyclone in USA.(Mark the word COULD).A highly dumbed down explanation of the butterfly effect is in the film Anniyan,where Vikram’s sister dies because a liquor shop owner sells liquor on a dry day.
Q: OK, how does Dasa incorporate it ?
A: In essence,Dasa talks about 8 characters who are inconsequential as such,but are integrated in a larger picture.Without Bush,the plane would have been called back.Without Shinghen, Govind would be dead.Without the tsunami,the world would have been destroyed.Even Krishnaveni Patti plays a very important role.If she had not put the vial in the idol,maybe Govind would have recovered it then and there and a powerful weapon would have been unleashed.The very fact that it went into the idol meant that it was being accelerated to its destiny.Without Kaifulla Khan, Govind would have never escaped;the list simply goes on.
Q:OK,so does the film talk about theism or atheism?
A:Neither.It talks about how humans drive the destiny of the world.
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The movie does Show ” A Butterfly ” flying accross the screen after the Tsunami Attcck, clearly indicating that the Tsunami is an Outcome of ” The Butterfly effect “.
ALSOOOOOOO……..
I said that the butterfly COULD cause a hurricane.That’s a huge probability. Would be a negligible probability. NOT a huge one. if that were true, we would have cyclones on an hourly basis as butterflies keep flitting all over Africa and u don’t have so many cyclones to account for a HUGE probability.
Chaos,relativity and quantum mechanics are so damn weird that you will think I am talking metaphysics and pseudoscience.
Like for example,according to quantum mechanics,there is a finite probability that you will fall right through a solid chair.And it is a PROBABILITY.
Even 10 to the power -26 is finite 🙂 .
But yes, Quantum Mechanics does allow for weird situations.
THE CONNECTION !!!!!
Guys check this link for a clear and complete explanation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_effect
In the above links u can see that butterfly’s wings might create tiny changes in the atmosphere that may ultimately alter the path of a tornado or delay, accelerate or even prevent the occurrence of a tornado in a certain location..
So in dasavatharam that idol thrown into sea in 12th century is the cause for tsunami…. so everything is interlinked .The wiki entry also says that chaos could play an important role in plate techtonics. Which means even the 12th century incident is connected.
The 1st scene is perfectly connected to the climax, remember what Kamal says in the 1st scene, that he will not say “Om Nama Shivaya” , but Asin tells him to chant it , but still Kamal refuses , ( in this kamal in his story tries to tell that ) Nambi believes in his god more than anything, but Asin feels “Its ok if we change the god or chant other god’s name, its life thats most important.” Now if u see the climax its JUST OPPOSITE…. Kamal doesn’t believe in god much and values lives of people the most…. but Asin deeply believes in god and that too this dialogue comes when both Asin and Kamal’s hand is on the god which came from the sea , and it also means that they are getting united from the place they departed hundreds of years back ( Kamal and Asin).The connection between the 1st scene and the climax in the movie shows the generation circle combined with supernatural powers of GOD and destiny…..!!!
If you watch it closely u can also find another actor who has done double action other than Asin and Kamal.
Asin’s father Sahasranamam [12th Century], in the beginning he says to Nambi “Panchatchira manthirathai sollitu vaango mappillai” and at the End [After tsunami] he says “Avar enna jathiyo inga vaanga paati “.
Another Eg. of Chaos Theory and circle of life.
JUST IMAGINE THE CHAOS THEORY IN A TAMIL FILM ??
WILL ANYONE HAVE THE GUTS TO HANDLE THIS KIND OF A SUBJECT IN A TAMIL FILM?
ONLY KAMAL HAS THE GUTS…. U ROCK!!
FURTHER————-
Nambi explanation
Okay, this is slightly outside the chaotic system driving the film as a whole.From what I could gather he says that this story is about ideologies like God,the madness surrounding such ideologies and decides to tell the story of the Shaivite-Vaishnavite conflict to show how people go crazy in the name of God as an example.
As a loose end,it gets tied up in the end,when the Ranganathar idol is thrown out of the sea due to the tsunami which highlights the cyclic nature of life.Actually the Nambi character highlights both Chaos and Karma which I explained.That is the brilliance of this film,there is so much to see and understand.
Another explanation(and this is slightly far fetched— as explained earlier) is that Govind is in fact the reincaranation of Nambi. As Nambi he couldn’t protect God and died in the name of God.In order to fulfill his Karma,he is reincarnated as Govind Ramasamy who ultimately saves the world from destruction.The idol in the end somewhat hints to this theory; his story began with the idol and it ends with the idol.
As far as the connection with Nambi character and events in 12th Century goes…
The connection is based on the “Butterfly effect “.
When Govind and Andal goes to the bury the idol in the sands, Andal will stumble on a particular stone couple of times…This is the same stone as the one from 12th Century hen Kothai rips her Thaali and flings it at Kulothunga Chozan…it will end up hanging on the stone. So, the implied message here is Andal is Kothai reborn in the 21s century.
During the encounter with Santhana Bharathi in the sand quarry, it is repeat of the incident from 12th century. Instead of Kulothunga Chozhan, it is the Sand Mafia which tries to inflict damage on the land.
This movie is a brilliant juxtaposition of independent characters whose paths cross, if only briefly, which is stunning example of Chaos Theory.
The idol that is drowned in the sea along with Rangarajan in 12th century by Chozha king results in a fault being developed at the bottom of the ocean and creates tremors more than 800 years later. These tremors result in the Tsunami. This again is a classic case of Butterfly Effect wherein a seemingly inconcsequential event (the drowing of the idol) saves Tamil Nadu from being wiped out off the face of the earth.
But actually kamal has not left anything for our imagination… Explanation struck the right chord, Kamal does tell to Asin in a dialogue that idol which gets sunken back then gets struck between the tectonic plates under the sea and causes tsunami…
Many people missed this dialogue i guess. Kamal’s accent was so very perfect Tamil, that many people missed it…. Being perfect Is a Problem by Itself !!! 🙂
Although the explanation is a least possible theory, that is what “Chaos Theory” And “Butterfly Effect” are all about.
Its not just the statue that caused the tsunami, but it just started a large chain of effects which kept multiplying exponentially and finally lead to it after 800 years….!!
Why just say this concept is perfectly illogical… it is possible… thats what i have been explaining all the while !!!
The story line is that things going wrong are made to be right which involves many people and countries knowingly or unknowingly.
Knowingly:
-Bush, Manmohan Singh, Govindh, Fletcher, Balaram Naidu, Mallika Sherawath.
Unknowingly:
-Nambi’s drowning to death with the heavy statue causes simple changes to the seabed that causes a devastating tsunami 800 years later [Acc. to Chaos theor it is possible…. although it is least probable… It is possible.. so nothing TOTALLY WRONG About it ]
-Poovaragan(actually saved kamal unknowingly—when poovaragan enters kamal and asin were caught by those manal kollayargal.There poovaragan distracts the gang helping kamal to escape),
– Avatar Singh(gave way to Fletcher to escape in the airport unknowingly),
– Japanese(saved govind from fletcher,he knows he is saving but he doesnt know about the play and was there only for revenge),
– Kallifulla and family(saved govind unknowingly)……..
-Vincent is a dalit leader of a lower caste( the so called ) but saved an Iyengar Girl ……and at the end becomes the con of the Iyengar Paati !!
– If Shingen Narahashi’s sister was not killed, Fletcher could have killed govind and used the virus for wrong purpose..
This is based on Chaos Theory..!!!!!
It is marvellous that Kamal has used such a device in Abhoorva Saghodhararghal, way back in 1989. To kill Delhi Ganesh, for those of you who do not remember… yet another Eg. of Chaos Theory And butterfly Effect !
The plot concept of Dasavadhaaram is logically explained by a machine used by Him in His own screenplay back then too, before 20 Years!! Be it a coincidence, or He possibly had that in mind as an inspiration, it amazes me!!
SearchIndia.com Responds:
We have read your note in full. Wonder, how many will?
Finally, someone with aesthetic refinement who has come forward to write reviews of Tamil movies (probably the cruellest form of self-torture currently known to mankind)!
Kudos to you Sir (based on your grasp of Tamil invective you could only be a ‘he’) – having watched a handful of recent Tamil releases and their corresponding [invariably glowing] reviews, I was left wondering whether there’s been some sort of cosmic effect at work that has robbed these reviewers of even the semblance of a brain – I am glad to see that there is at least one person who has the gonads to tell it like it is without mincing words.
More power to you – and all I will say about your detractors is that their patently obvious intellect and aesthetic sense (the lack thereof, obviously) are punishment enough without my chipping in with scathing remarks.
Continue to carry the proud flag forward, brother – these a**h**es (beginning with Kamalahasan) need all the deflating they can get.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write above: has come forward to write reviews of Tamil movies (probably the cruellest form of self-torture currently known to mankind)!
True, true & true raised to the power of a million.
Having gone through both the review as well as some of the comments posted, I felt I had to express my personal views as well. I agree that posting in english would help those readers who are unfamiliar with Indian languages. Kamal Hassan, I believe (as well as millions of Indians- not just Tamilians do) is undoubtedly one of the few actors in India to bring in technology and new ideas to the Indian movie industry ( not just the tamil industry ). He is also one actor who has been highly underrated. In comparison with Rajni Kanth (his decidedly sick makeover in Sivaji) and Vikram ( in Bheema – I cant begin to review that one),I believe Kamal Hassan has tried his best once again. It is sad that the Indian public has not matured enough to appreciate some of Kamal’s acting talent on display in movies such as Alavandhan, Anbe Sivam (one of my all time favourites) and Virumaandi. I hope that the reviewer agrees with me on these counts and many others, some of these movies are on par with Hollywood.
Moving on to Bollywood, actors like Amitabh Bacchan has delivered duds such as Jhoom Barabar Jhoom (OMG one of the worst movies I saw of late). Aamir Khan’s highly overrated performance in Taare Zameen Par ( the kid playing the role of a dyslexic school student carried the movie on his shoulders) and the flop of epic proportions, Mangal Paandey. How about Mr.SRK’s many blunders and some stupid love stories that went on to become hits only based on his star status.
The point I am trying to make here is that a reviewers responsibility is to show the probable audience for a movie both the pros and cons, and not just exaggerate the flaws. I appreciate Kamal’s perseverence in trying out different genres- different styles of makeup, his comedy timing, his versatility etc. He is also one of the few actors who manages to surpass the age barrier. He looks amazing when paired with actresses half his age ( the same cant be said of most Indian actors his age).
I also appreciate his commitment to Indian cinema and his many attempts to bring new and improved technology to the Indian screen and his boldness in not attempting Hollywood movies. I would not start criticizing Ms.Aishwarya Rai on this blog coz I just have too much to say and this space may be insufficient. She is so overrated and a supposed Indian ambassador to global cinema. Her acting talent (or the lack of it) has some stupid audiences applaud and elevate her to levels that she doesnt deserve. In this idiosyncratic world we live in, Something must be said in favour of Kamal who has probably been one of the few actors to start bridging the Tamil-Hindi movie industry barrier.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. Like you, we were not bowled over by either Sivaji or Bheema. Yes, Jhoom Barabar Jhoom expands the definition of crap.
2. You write: The point I am trying to make here is that a reviewers responsibility is to show the probable audience for a movie both the pros and cons, and not just exaggerate the flaws.
We agree partially on this point. Agree on highlighting both pros and cons in equal measure. Disagree with you on exaggerate the flaws. If anything Kamal got off easy, given his standing & three-decades plus experience in the business.
3. Virumandi was a lovely movie. But as we’ve said on other occasions, Pasupathy outshone Kamal.
see, it is funny to read official responses from searchindia.com. if this were run by white ppl u might be fired. i dont understand y u have to respond to every comment. I had some psychiatric problem and i used to behave like this. u may not realize it but u might have some minor problem.
as far as the review goes, it is ur opinion and i dont care.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. You write above: I had some psychiatric problem and i used to behave like this
You still do…it’s just that you imagine you are cured.
What’s your psychiatric problems got to do with Dasavatharam?
2. You write: if this were run by white ppl u might be fired
What if Searchindia.com were run by black people or yellow people, would we still be fired?
ru an anti kamal r wat?..tryin to defame him…haven’t u seen some of his timeless classics like mahanadi,nayagan,anbesivam etc…dat other actors cant even dream abt..wat do u think?..he juss came n had makeup stuffed on his face n jss went of?..its really difficult to emote urself with dat kinda heavy makeup..n did u listen to the voices he has given for the characters,no one else can match dat esp. in dat balaram n patti charac…d kinda modulation he has given s amazin…mind dat hes above 50….n vry1 talkin abt weak script r story…ru a reviewer r an academy award winning director…criticising kamal…cmon man its really difficult to bring in the ten characters within a single plot (kamal has done enough justice)…n all of dem were well choired to lead to the climax…stop criticising atleast for the efforts he has made..try talkin abt flaws in movie n characterisation rather than callin him a stupid person..rmmbr dat hes 4 times national award winner…ur nothin b4 him..as a matter of fact we are.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. Stop writing in Ebonics. Use plain English.
2. You write above: ru a reviewer r an academy award winning director…criticising kamal
Since no Indian has won the Academy Award for direction yet, we are contacting Steven Spielberg & Martin Scorsese. They need a good laugh and also by your logic only they have a right to criticize your demi god Kamal.
3. You write: its really difficult to emote urself with dat kinda heavy makeup
Kamal is richly paid to do just that. So he better deliver.
hi,
I havent seen the movie, but by the standard of this review, and more so after reading the replies to the comments, I can safely say that the reviewer is nothing but a totally immature attention seeking fool.
may be this guy gets paid for catching attention and slandering people.
the review written as a comment by inirschennai here above is much more informative and insight oriented into the purpose and meaning of the movie.
you can just get an idea of the idiocy of this website’s reviewer by the filthy abusive replies to the comments (one of which I am sure he wud find time to write for me..) after all he seems to have all the time in the world to waste on producing filth….
from what seems to be the storyline and the concept, kamal definitely seems to have put in much more than usual effort (not for the sake of only raking money, but also an effort to produce something different) and because of reviewers like these who cannot appreciate sincere effort, people are discouraged to try something different…. when u are anyway going to get abused, why take the effort???…..
well i dont think the reviewer would anyway understand my point, but do what u are good at doing…abuse me!!!
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Absolute baloney.
You write above: kamal definitely seems to have put in much more than usual effort
If effort is the yardstick for respect, then Stalin, Mussolini & Der Fuehrer probably deserve your respect too.
You write above: well i dont think the reviewer would anyway understand my point
Since you are not in the Einstein league yet, we can understand your ramblings.
Flash news! Flash news! Dasavataram proves Einstein’s theory! This goes way beyond any kamal fan could have dreamt in his wildest fantasy! Yes, folks, way back in 1932 Albert Einstein propounded that “Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.” Now, after over seventy five years of continuous efforts of trying to provide conclusive evidence, Einstein’s intuition proved right! It turns out that human stupidity can go beyond all bounds indeed, and Dasavataram for the first time in the history of the universe proves it beyond any doubt. And if the movie itself has inadvertently fallen a little short of the ultimate mark of cosmic infinitude in stupidity, kamal’s fans rush in to fill the void – to take stupidity to levels beyond anything humanly conceivable! You chaos-theory-mongering chaotic and rabid mongrels, please try to understand that earthquakes (which are the most usual causes of tsunamis, including the 2004-one)are not human-caused. Yes, there is a possibility of an active fault line with a lot of pent-up pressure being triggered off by human activity, as by a nuclear explosion, but fault lines are not caused human actions. Without knowing such a basic thing, you freaking idiots go on blabbering about chaos theory and how some supposed sinking of a statue off the coast of south india centuries ago caused (implying, could have caused) the 2004-tsunami. You imbeciles are a disgrace to physics, to human sense of commonsense, to india, to humanity, to 21st century and to your demi-god kamal hasan himself probably. You dolts and nitwits don’t seem to have intelligence enough to understand that earth is round or that earth moves around the sun, and you talk about chaos theory and quantum mechanics!
This some guy araj blabbers above (repeating what countless others have said before him in the past few days):”The idol that is drowned in the sea along with Rangarajan in 12th century by Chozha king results in a fault being developed at the bottom of the ocean and creates tremors more than 800 years later. These tremors result in the Tsunami. This again is a classic case of Butterfly Effect wherein a seemingly inconcsequential event (the drowing of the idol) saves Tamil Nadu from being wiped out off the face of the earth.”
First let me give you a little basic lesson in simple cause-and-effect principle which is the foundation of modern science. Let’s assume that your totally freaking nonsense theory about a deity statue touching the ocean floor caused a fault line in earth’s crust is true. Now, is this the cause that caused everything? Obviously no, so this is not what really “saved tamil nadu” – because the sinking of the statue was caused by something else, which was caused by somethign else, ad infintum to the beginnig of the universe. So, in effect, what “saved tamilnadu” was the origin of the universe, aka the big bang. For you kamal fans, who don’t seem to know any world beyond tamil movies, the beginning of dasavataram may seem like a big bang, but please try to understand that the dimensions of the real world extend much further than what is shown in movie theaters. The butterfly effect is just an illustration, an extreme example, of complexity theory, it doesn’t say that the flapping of the butterfly wings can cause a hurricane, being the first cause. It is the big bang that started it all, classical physics says everything that followed it is in theory predictable, and chaos theory says that things can become unpredictable after a certain level of complexity is reached. But there is a cause and effect logic in all science, cause and effect breaking down only inside a singularity like a black hole. You dasa freaks go on tirelessly raving that this incident in the movie’s story caused that, that incident caused a further that, as if Kamal Hasan discovered the cause-and-effect principle. However, you freaking idiots, cause-and-effect principle was discovered in ancient greece 2500 years ago. You don’t have to take recourse in chaos theory to explain a bullshit story of a tamil film. Chaos theory is only needed to explain the enormous complexity of stages between a particular incident and its eventual consequences. There is no trace of such complexity in the film. You simply claim that a sunken statue triggered off an earth quake, and that this is the most wonderful illustration of the butterfly effect. Going by that logic, you freaking idiots, Kamal/nambi may have just sneezed before sinking, and that sneeze could have caused the tsunami just as well. And infact, a sneeze would be a closer depiction of the butterfly effect than a huge statue thudding down, though it is already hundreds of times more powerful than a flap of insect wings. I hope you see the point now, there must have been 10 to the power of 100 or much more events on the scale of a sneeze or beyond that happened in the past 800 years (to go by this arbitrary time frame) and any of them could be involved in the triggering of the 2004 earthquake – if a falling idol can do it, then literally anything else anywhere could do it. Any movie claming to depict chaos theory should show how and in what steps one very very small thing could have led to anohter very very big thing, and not just claim that it did so, which is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Then anything can cause anything and it will all be chaos, but we are not in living inside a black hole, okay, we are living a cosmos – though you kamal fans seem more like aliens that have come from a black hole universe. You kamal fans are personifications of Einstein’s theory, you go way beyond quantum mechanics or chaos theory; you have transcended this world of relativity to become first absolute specimens of something, you know what that something is, right? Furthermore, you people don’t have the least shame or sense of human dignity, a tragic tsunami that killed tens of thousands of people and utterly disrupted lakhs of people’s lives all over asia, you consider that as a blessing, because in your stupid freaking story that does something good. Still, how the tsunami saved tamil nadu, I don’t understand! The last time I checked it only wreaked immeasurable havoc. Don’t insult all the victims of the tsunami with your bullshit film stories and imbecile interpretations of it.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. Well argued comment.
You write above: I hope you see the point now
If they could, there would be no need for this debate.
2. You write: This some guy araj blabbers above (repeating what countless others have said before him in the past few days):”The idol that is drowned in the sea along with Rangarajan in 12th century by Chozha king results in a fault being developed …
That point was actually made by movie_lover on June 16th, 2008 at 7:23 am and inirschennai on June 18th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
Not araj.
3. Our favorite sentences from above comment:
And if the movie itself has inadvertently fallen a little short of the ultimate mark of cosmic infinitude in stupidity, kamal’s fans rush in to fill the void – to take stupidity to levels beyond anything humanly conceivable!
You imbeciles are a disgrace to physics, to human sense of commonsense, to india, to humanity, to 21st century and to your demi-god kamal hasan himself probably. You dolts and nitwits don’t seem to have intelligence enough to understand that earth is round or that earth moves around the sun, and you talk about chaos theory and quantum mechanics!
I don’t understand why u are saying pasupathi outshone kamal in virumaandi. Kamal did best for the scope, the role offered him. He didn’t under perform in the movie. If u feel pasupathy needs to be appreciated then kamal needs to appreciated more for the characterization of the role and for the direction. To further justify my point pasupathys previous film were madhurey and Dhool. Hope you understand from where suddenly he got his acting prowess which u were talking about came from.
Did you?
As for dasa though kamals acting didn’t get adequate support from the story there are a lot of positives to be appreciated in the film. U didn’t find any positives in the film or u just didn’t want to mention it.
Though some points which u said are to be accepted the words you use such as manga madaya doesn’t make ur review sensible enough to debate this much.
Apart from your kalaai plz give a sensible reply (if possible only)
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. You write above: I don’t understand why u are saying pasupathi outshone kamal in virumaandi
Simply because Pasupathy put in a better performance. Kamal was good too…don’t get us wrong.
2. You write: As for dasa though kamals acting didn’t get adequate support from the story
And who do you think is responsible for that sophomoric story.
3. there are a lot of positives to be appreciated in the film
Very little, actually.
Hey guys, here’s something that may make you think once again about an earlier comment you made “Kamal Haasan tries a similar attention-grabbing gimmick – for the first time, 10 different roles in a movie. So what? It’s still a lousy movie and overall a bad freak show.” The fact of the matter is that there is significance behind each of these roles, as you will see below. To answer your “So what?” question, read below.
[This lengthy comment by Blinkk182 is virtually the same as the comment posted by PraveenNair on June 18th, 2008 at 9:45 am. So we are not publishing (repeating) it]
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Repetition by Blinkk182 of the same comment posted earlier by PraveenNair on June 18th, 2008 at 9:45 am seems like a cheap carpet bombing PR trick to us.
is dis whole review thing a croud puller?
SearchIndia.com Responds:
When you learn the spelling of croud (sic), we’ll answer your fatuous question.
While I don’t agree with the reviewer’s all-out bashing of the film and Kamal Hassan himself,I was terribly disappointed when I watched it a few days ago. There was so much hype. It had so many things going for it- Kamal Hassan, Ravikumar, the budget etc. How could they mess it up so bad?
Only three avatars were essential to the plotline- the bio engineer, the ex-cia agent and the telugu detective. The rest were thrown in just to bump the number up to 10and claim the title of “Dasvatharam”, not to mention “the new world record”.
Where did the budget (supposedly 140 crore) go? The special effects were hideous. The shark swimming around at the end of the 12th century segment made me cringe. The sega megadrive games I used to play as a kid 14 years ago had better graphics than this. The butterfly and the car at the tsunami scene right at the end looked incredibly fake as well. The make-up that Kamal reportedly spend several hundred hours putting on and taking off was horrendous. Some of the characters didn’t even look human! The ex-CIA agent Fletcher looked like the Joker (Batman’s arch enemy) more than anything else. Maybe Fletcher should apply for the job now that Heath Leger is dead when casting comes around for the next Batman film.
Hopefully Kamal will survive this debacle, gather himself and hit back harder. He’s one of the very few true artists in Indian cinema.
k dat was a mistype….bt mine was not a fatuous Q…u seem to be so worried about your site’s popularity so decided to take a shot at kamal and dasavatharam….so that so many ll register to [trash talk] on ur review thereby raising ur site’s fame…..good mark. ability…..
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You seem to be under the illusion that we are a lone voice in the darkness railing against that “masterpiece” Dasavatharam.
Far from it.
Several other critics have expressed their disappointment with the movie as well.
ebonics s my chat habit…do u have any prob wid that? you have written “the special effects, usually hopelessly crude in Tamil movies.” and where do you find them in other indian movies?
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Special effects as we’ve said in the review are hopeless in Tamil movies, slightly better in Hindi movies but overall still pathetic in Indian movies.
i wonder what was the last hindi movie that i saw which had better special effects than anniyan or as a matter of fact most of shankar’s movies…..?
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Although a decent movie, the special effects in Anniyan were nothing to write home about.
OMG,i think u must be a hollywood reviewer wrongly appointed as an indian film reviewer cos ur xpectin too much from indian films and 1 point i have noted is that in all of the reviews you have written u have criticised tamil movies or had cited a false example abt tamil movies even if its a hindi movie review….why s that….a personal revenge or something?
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Why should we expect anything less from Hindi or Tamil movies. By the way, Tamil movies charge more $$ than Hollywood and Bollywood movies in the US. Sivaji – $25, Dasavatharam – $15, Kuruvi – $13.
You write above: had cited a false example abt tamil movies even if its a hindi movie review….why s that….a personal revenge or something
Get a brain-wash!
yes i accept that many sites have expressed their disappointment with the movie as well.But they did not write anything illegitimate as you have done.They have jss concentrated on the movie rather than kamal….but you seem to be more worried about kamal.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
When you charge $15 per ticket and you deliver crap, viewers have good grounds to be upset.
By the way, we did not write anything illegitimate (sic) about Kamal contrary to your wild imagination.
why shoul i get a white-wash?….ru trying to be smart?….do you oppose me on my comment….in most of the reviews you have written like..”crowded marketplace of bad Tamil movies.”…”crap movies”…remember that we have the finest of directors in the country and the best of technology miles grater than hindi or any other south indian industry….
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write above: remember that we have the finest of directors in the country
If the Tamil film industry has the finest directors, they are doing a great job of hiding in some cave with Osama.
Most Tamil films fall under one of the following categories – Bad, Ugly & Pathetic (with very, very few exceptions).
wonderful review man. this film has only hype and nothing else. good thing is that i am still alive after watching this crap.
A word of advice to ‘Kamal fans’: things would be much easier if you got your priorities right. It would be greatly boost your intelligence levels if you tried to be fans of good cinema and quality work, irrespective of who’s responsible for it and how much you’d like to polish his boots. You know, that goes for life in general! Bodhisattva signing off. Om!
dasavatharam is a master-piece and y de hell r u so keen in defamin kamal and his brillint actin…could u possibly imagine how he cud hav done dat “paati” charecter…?and u r attackin everyone associated wid de movie…himesh was gr8…he did a decent job..de picturisation of “oh oh sanam” was jus amazin…u seem to b a hollywood lover…name 1 actor in hollywood who cud hav accepted dat paati role…none..even robert de niro and robin williams will not have acceptd dat role…de movie was lightnin speed and ur accusin everythin…pathetic..i thought asin was de only “mokka” of de movie..and u seem to appreciate her actin..wher do u reside..??america??i don dink so…how many kamal films have u seen???do u kno wat actin is all about???tell me ur fav actor…
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. You write above: dasavatharam is a master-piece
God save our land, if movies like Dasavatharam can be hailed as masterpieces.
temme in ur view…which movie can b regarded as a masterpiece…(a tamil movie)…
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write above: which movie can b regarded as a masterpiece
Tamil masterpiece? – That’s what they call in English a contradiction in terms.
Of course, there are a few good Tamil movies – Sigappu Rojakkal (Kamal), Aaralindhu Aravadhu…(Rajini), Virumandi (Pasupathy), Veyyil, Sathum Podaathay, Nayagan (Kamal), Anniyan, Amirtham, Kaakha Kaakha ….
OMG….tamil films are not pathetic,worse or ugly than any other indian film industry (exceptions such as malayalam and bengal)and do u expect the 100 out of 100 films to be master pieces….remember we had a better 2006-07 than any other industry….yes we have finest of directors …dat u can’t deny jss by sayin some stupid relation to osama…then wer r other industy’s DIR. hiding with osama’s uncle?
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write above: tamil films are not pathetic,worse or ugly than any other indian film industry (exceptions such as malayalam and bengal)
Unlike you, we are not presumptuous enough to talk about what we personally don’t know much about. A little learning is a dangerous thing, Drink deep or taste not the Pierian spring. Think Pope was talking about you?
Woohoo!! I like I like!
Oh! By the way, when you had asked ‘gk’ to get a brain wash, he returned asking why should he get a ‘white-wash’?! Hmmm….interesting I must say eh?
Hey,
Who the hell is the reviewer??? I think he is stupid guy in this world. Because ppl like only India is still developing country.
I think Kamal is wasting his time in India. If you would have born in Foreign country his talented will be recognized very well. I thin the reviewer will only watch masala movie….Even may give the good comments to Shakila Movie…
See my comments below about Great Movie Dasavatharam:
[Since the rest of the comment is a combination of comments by PraveenNair on June 18th, 2008 at 9:45 am and inirschennai on June 18th, 2008 at 2:32 pm, we are not publishing it]
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Dai Arivu (genius), You write above: Because ppl like only India is still developing country
What’s that got to do with anything?
Hi Again,
I just have a question for you? why do u compare indian movies with hollywood. We don’t follow there culture, Our eating style, food and living style is entirely different from them and our way of looking at things dont even match with them and before u make a comment saying that they are much better than us. think again.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write above: why do u compare indian movies with hollywood. We don’t follow there culture, Our eating style, food and living style is entirely different from them and our way of looking at things dont even match with them
1. For the most part, Hollywood represents the acme of the movie business.
2. Indian moviemakers starting from Raj Kapoor down (facinated with Charlie Chaplin) have been strongly influenced by Hollywood.
3. Tamil & Hindi movie directors have been shamelessly lifting Hollywood movies for decades with impunity (Even Kamal’s Thenali was a lift of What about Bob?. So that makes Kamal an accessory to a crime and a clear financial beneficiary of theft).
4. We don’t follow there culture – What say you about celebration of Valentine’s Day, Mother’s day etc in urban India…Even on the food front, Indians are aping the West…look at the mushrooming Pizza joints. Eating, we agree with you…Most Indians can’t or won’t eat with forks/knives/spoons.
phew…!!u regard satham podathey as a master-piece…god save u…de story of de film sux..however i must accept dat de actin was gud…atlast ur not an anti-kamal den..u hav mentioned de movie sigappu rojaakal…gud…atleast u hav acceptd dat…
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Dummkopf, if you don’t understand an English expression, look it up.
What did we tell you earlier: Tamil masterpiece? – That’s what they call in English a contradiction in terms. Obviously, you did not understand what it means.
Sathum Podaathay is a good movie not a masterpiece. There are no masterpieces in Tamil movies.
Movies like Casablanca, Godfather, On the Waterfront & Sholay that have stood the test of time are masterpieces. We find them as appealing today as we did when we first watched them.
hey thanks mochachillo,u seem to be attracted tow. dat stup reviewer and reviews….u say u cum here read his reviews even though u don watch dose movies….gr8 njoy ur stay without doin any participation n mockin others along wid d reviewer..bs
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Are you the comments policeman…deciding what others should write or do vis-a-vis Dasavatharam?
hey dude wats ur name n is dis ur profession?
The name is SearchIndia.com – Pera Keta Chumma Athiruthulla🙂
who said vettaiyadu vilaiyaadu is a flop.i dont think so. it has grossed around 60cr at the boxoffice and it was a fenatastic movie.i don think so it was a bitter pill toswallow for kamal fans may be for you.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write above: it has grossed around 60cr at the boxoffice
We doubt it because it was such a gross movie
peraye sollala adhukulla sceneaa???……..so u know tamil r ur a tamil?
SearchIndia.com Responds:
En rathathin rathamana sahodarana, ulagam ellam Tamil makkal-than
omg to really difficult to understand than ebonics or arabics……bt is dis necessary “it’s time this dinosaur of the Tamil movie industry moves on to less taxing pursuits, like aadu, maadu maikara vela (a cowherd, grazing goats and cows).”…..
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write above: is dis necessary “it’s time this dinosaur of the Tamil movie industry moves on to less taxing pursuits, like aadu, maadu maikara vela (a cowherd, grazing goats and cows)
Yes…as we’ve said ad nauseum ad infinitum, Kamal Haasan is not a podi paya like Ajith, Simbhu, Vishal et al. So expectation is far higher from Kamal and further, when he fails to deliver after taking $15 per ticket, it leaves a very bad taste in the mouth.
Your review and befitting replies to comments are interesting to read. Surely the movie doesnt live up to Your expectations from a 35+ years experienced versatile actor in Tamil.
I saw the movie in Dubai (at about half the price you paid there) Comparing this movie to Indian Film standards,I would say its worth it,cant ask for more.
What if:
1.The movie is NOT Compared to Hollywood standards, but compared to Indian Cinema Standards?
2.Only two charectors were portrayed by Kamal ie. Rangaraja Nambi & Govind Ramasamy (both he did perfectly well) and the eight other roles played by 8 different actors with their real faces & without much make up.
I think the movie would have received a better rating from you a) had it not been for the high expectations you had from Kamal B) his feat to play 10 roles just for a record and c)all the hype & hoopla created before the release of the movie.
Just wondering – What if :
Kamal’s next magnum opus would be MAHABARATH, wherein he will play 100 Kauravas, 5 Pandavas, Dronachrya, Bhisma, Sakuni,Krishna & Karna. (110 roles in all !)
(N.T.Rama Rao did Dhuryodana, Karna & Krishna in a Telugu movie called Dhaana Veera Soora Karna.)
1.Critics cant say there is No Story (its a great Indian Epic)
2.Chances for a flimsy facial make-up (like Fletcher, George Bush & even Patti) is minimal, correct costumes can differentiate between charectors like white beard and white robes for Bhisma, Black Robes and salt & pepper beard for Sakuni, Blind Folds for Dharmaraja, Blue paint for Lord Krishna etc.
3.Kamal cant fail to deliver, as he is a versatile actor – by doing only the acting part.
4.All other departments to be taken care of professionals in the respective fields.
As a Critic – You will still find many holes to punch.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. You write above: What if: The movie is NOT Compared to Hollywood standards, but compared to Indian Cinema Standards?
Indian cinema has no standards (for the most part)…it only has starstruck fans besotted with their favorite actors/actresses gawking at bad movies. Last night, we watched a 2003 Hungarian movie Kontroll – filmed on a subway Budapest Metro…a day earlier, we watched the 1962 Italian film Mafioso (Alberto Sordi). Both are Simply Awesome. There is no way our Bollywood or Kollywood idiots can make such movies in a long, long time.
We don’t live in isolated silos anymore (in fact humankind never did). Hollywood is the standard in the movie business although there are some moviemakers in China/South Korea/Hongkong, & Europe who bring out good movies.
If Hollywood were not the standard, Tamil & Hindi moviemakers would not be stealing so much from Hollywood movies.
Just look at the number of stories stolen by our Tamil & Hindi filmakers – in Tamil alone, Thenali (Kamal) was a lift of What about Bob?..Aanai (Arjun) was a pathetic lift of the 2004 Denzel Washington film Man on Fire. In Hindi, Partner was a lift of Hitch, Hey Babbyy a crude copy of Three Men & a Baby. There are many, many more.
2. You write: Only two charectors were portrayed by Kamal ie. Rangaraja Nambi & Govind Ramasamy (both he did perfectly well) and the eight other roles played by 8 different actors with their real faces & without much make up.
Wouldn’t make a difference because the story would still remain weak.
3. You write: Just wondering – What if : Kamal’s next magnum opus would be MAHABARATH, wherein he will play 100 Kauravas, 5 Pandavas, Dronachrya, Bhisma, Sakuni,Krishna & Karna. (110 roles in all !)
We’ll blame our bad Karma if such an apocalyptic event were to happen. We are already thinking of breaking 101 coconuts in the nearest Hindu Temple in the U.S. to avoid such a calamity.
I saw the movie, it isnt breathtakingly boring as you say. It moves with a rapid pace. Your expectations were higher from Kamal and he failed to live upto your expectations. But for his fans the expectations may not be as high as yours hence all the bashing you get and a befitting reply they get too. Its fun reading.
Kamal has done his acting part perfectly well. He may not have lived upto the mark in other areas of story, screen play & dialogues for which it is perfect to blame him. Where is KS Ravikumar’s touch, i didnt notice any?
Would your opinion be different if :
[Repeat of previous comment by same poster…hence not published)
SearchIndia.com Responds: He may not have lived upto the mark in other areas of story, screen play & dialogues
If you add bad acting to some of the fatal flaws you list above, that would better describe Dasavatharam.
the review is ok. one thing i want to say to the reviewer that we should not compare dasavatharam to an arthouse movie, it is for pure entertainment , so that a layman who pays rs.50 for his ticket gets his due entertainment also when a budget of 60 crore for a tamil movie ( which has a far less market than holly of bolly) was spent, the producers will definitely want to get the due, so no way kamal can make an art film in this case ( every body know what happened to Hey Ram which is the second best film made in tamil in last 10 or 15 years next only to sethu ), so kamal did bent his script to get the entertainment quotient high. As far as entertainment is concerned , this film is above average. the CG work is extra ordinary when compared to other tamil movies( you cannot compare it to Terminator not even with its first part, but come on we tamils dont have that technological improvement as of now, well this may be the beginning), the camera and sets are also good.i just want to ask one question to the reviewer , can you name any one Hollywood or Bollywood action movie which has a strong script and Screenplay, given your benchmark to the good scripts. coming back to the film , it did not really require 10 kamals, so the culprit here is kamal for spending too much money of the producers , just to set a record for himself. i bet he wont try this kind of venture in his own production. yes the screenplay is weak losing its logic every now and then , no need for characters such as poova raghan or avatar singh or halifullah khan, bad dialogues, too bad performance from actors, but still the movie goes in lightning speed , that you realise you have spent 3 hours just at the end of the movie, and i think thats what 90% of the movie goers want and i belong to the remaining 10 % .
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write above: can you name any one Hollywood or Bollywood action movie which has a strong script and Screenplay, given your benchmark to the good scripts
This is not Hollywood…. but one of the fine movies we’ve watched lately is the Hungarian movie Kontroll. The movie has been completely filmed in the Budapest subway. Amazing work by director Nimród Antal. Nice performances by the actors, offbeat story & good screenplay come together in a must-watch movie.
Although it’s what you’d call an art film, we believe it made decent money.
In the U.S., it’s available on Netflix both via DVD and instantly on TV (via broadband) if you have the Roku box ($99).
To cite a few examples in Bollywood, Taare Zameen Par, Sholay, Manorama Six Feet, Johnny Gaddaar, Cheeni Kum (to a lesser degree) had strong stories, screenplay and decent acting.
Hey Man… Your review is simply classic. I feel totally let down by this crap of a movie.
Hey man…
Just don’t bother about the brickbats on your review – It just proves the point that human beings can actually live without a brain- I liked your review.
Hello.
I read your reviews often, not for getting the vague idea of whether go for it or not, but just to see how idiotically the reviews can go. And i am 101% sure that you will idiotically state that we who comment are “headless wonders”. Just see the response. Almost everyone disagrees with you! Please concentrate on the SCREEN to at least criticize the movie!
Yeah i admit, Dasavathaaram was not upto the mark and all the hype, but still its a GOOD movie, and never seemed to be boring for me. And you said Silk smitha would have done better – sounds like a kind of disappointment with the glamor element – go watch a blue film of silk smitha – but don’t call it dreary movie!
Now if anyone watch movies according to your reviews, they might not watch a movie for centuries, i see only rear praises by you.
Ah yes, so you gonna tell that “All movies sucks”? Now Kal ho naa ho is a critically acclaimed movie, and never a boring moment in it, also it had record collection in the US, still you call it a Boring movie? Sounds awkward my friend.
And i can understand if you are against masala flicks and expecting lot of content – But you gave Dhoom “Above average”. Though box office success, it had nothing new except those chicks runnin around with some xtra skin! So what are u expecting friend? What is the criteria of these reviews? I am eager to know.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write above: Yeah i admit, Dasavathaaram was not upto the mark and all the hype, but still its a GOOD movie
Logic and consistency are not obviously your strong points. Are you a complete idiot to say that “it’s not upto the mark…but still it’s a GOOD movie” in the same sentence.
Seems like the synapses in your brain are misfiring.
this reviewer just says that the screenplay and story is lagging and did not justify it by citing examples. i request the reviewer to get out of his arthouse mode and enter into the entertainment mode and review this film, i am sure we will be seeing an entirely different review.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Arthouse, Farthouse, Masala…by any yardstick, Dasavatharam is a mediocre film.
You write above: reviewer just says that the screenplay and story is lagging and did not justify it by citing examples
Pay attention…we clearly stated in the review – some of the characters are poorly fleshed out and that overall story – with the distracting side stories – is a jumbled mess.
P.S: We also provided you a comparison/reference to a movie with nice story, screenplay and acting in Kontroll in our previous response to your previous comment.
couldn’t curb my curiosity.. watched a cam. print (movies no longer in theater in our area).
i thought that the 12th century start was rousing.. aided by asin’s pretty damsel in distress portrayal.
it was quite well-paced for the first 1 hours.. we could even pardon the expression-less masks. it started stumbling when it reached the paatti.. but once they meet the manal mafia, the movie hits a maelstrom of insipid jokes which totally kills the pace.. crazy mohan jokes have become monotonous/predictable. to be fair to the jokes, the cam. print probably worsened my fatigue. i actually stopped the movie at the 2 hour mark because of the fatigue.. but managed to resume and complete it.
if we want kadi jokes, we can rent some old videos.. it was unnaturally thrust upon us where the sun doesn’t shine.. i guess he didn’t know how to use the 10 characters. 2.5 years in the making.. what a waste effort. Frank Caliendo is better with less disgusting make-up.. and he doesn’t claim to be ulaga nayagan.. and his shows are much shorter.
i agree with what_if.. if there is a strong story.. (mahabharatham is tooooo much — kamal will take 20 years to complete that).. and a better make-up technician, minus infusion of kadi jokes and mallika, plus a good screenplay, minus songs, + some modesty, kamal would have fared better.
is it just me, or didn’t eddie murphy look more natural in nutty professor.. way back in 1996..
although the masked characters looked terrible, the govind character didn’t look much better.. kamal is fat&old and you know it, kamal fans.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write above: or didn’t eddie murphy look more natural in nutty professor.. way back in 1996
Eddie Murphy is sui generis
no, i mean makeup-wise.. Professor Sherman Klump didn’t look artificial.. i need to rent it out and check again.. maybe we were more forgiving those days.
Michael westmore was probably not competent enough to handle this project.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
It’s unforgivable to have such hideously bad makeup as what we witnessed, particularly on Christian Fletcher & George W.Bush in Dasavatharam. Just look at any of the Pirates of the Caribbean movies for solid costumes & makeup.
Come on, India has been making feature films since 1913 and talkies for 77 years now. But you wouldn’t know it if you saw any recent Bollywood or Kollywood movie…garish makeup, crude humor, silly songs, non-existent stories, hopeless acting…rank amateurs all.
[trash talk]
SearchIndia.com Responds:
We’d have been more than happy to publish your rant/criticism of our Dasavatharam review if only you’d excised the filth from your comment.
As anyone can see, we don’t shy away from publishing comments critical of our reviews, but your filthy comments are beyond the pale.
For those Dhasavatharam critics and fans, here are superb explanation about the movie. Now the movie seems to have more messages than the ‘butterfly effect’. Kamal actually portrays the 10 incarnations of Vishnu.
[repeat of earlier comments on linking the 10 roles in the movie to the Dasa-avatars]
For those who could understand the verses in Bagvad Gita, the holy book could be a ‘humming bird’. Otherwise it is just another book. Similiar to Dasavatharam movie, it is a fantastic movie with deep meaning for those who could understand the story line. Otherwise it is just another Tamil movie.
There is a good saying in Tamil: Puriyathavargalukku oru puthir.
Last but not least, we should understand that Kamal is not eyeing for oscar by acting 10 different role because he is fully aware that Dasavatharam is not a big deal as in 1923, the English movie-Queen Victoria already depicted 27 roles. So instead of criticizing, we should support an Indian, specifically a Tamizhan who is hitting the ground out there.
Thank you
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write above: we should support an Indian, specifically a Tamizhan who is hitting the ground out there.
No applause is called for this crappy movie. Dasavatharam is an embarrassment to all notions of art.
The film makes every tamil audience proud. This is first attempt. Although we are lacking the hollywood cinemas by 15 years, this gives some hope.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write above: Although we are lacking the hollywood cinemas by 15 years, this gives some hope.
Au contraire, it’s cause for despair because it shows how much we are lacking in the various elements of movie-making – story, screenplay, acting, makeup and photography.
the reason for mediocrity is probably because the majority of smart kids opt to go to medicine or computer science.. cinema is considered taboo..
same taboo dissuades lots of pretty girls away from movies.. *sob* *sob*
as you say “There is no way our Bollywood or Kollywood idiots can make movies like Kontroll and Mafioso”….bt can dose idiots cry like kamal did in mahanadi and moonram pirai (exceptional acting),or can they try characters like alavandhan or anbe sivam,or create a script like heyram or mahandhi or sing like he did in anbe sivam and other…hes the only indian to have all these exceptional skills together,so hes second to none….even your indiana jones review says dat its missing that grippin story r screenplay…then do u recommend spielberg to turn a cowherd, grazing goats and cows…dis is no way connected to dasa…bt ur crossin limits by abusin our own actors and creators….u jss have the right to review the movie not the personals….
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. You write above: ur crossin limits by abusin our own actors and creators
Most of our Bollywood and Tamil Indian actors (including Kamal, Amitabh Bachchan, Salman Khan & many others) deserve our scorn and yours too because they actively profit from THEFT of the Hollywood movies that you denigrate and ridicule.
If you have the cojones, ask Kamal for an explanation of why he participated – and profited – in the making of Thenali, which is an ugly lift of What About Bob? There are two ways to look at Kamal’s profiting from Thenali: Either Kamal was ignorant, in which case he’s an idiot. Or he knew it, in which case he is a Vekkaketta Thirudan (shameless thief). But you turn a Nelson’s eye to such theft by Tamil and Hindi stars because you are a lily livered poltroon.
Here are a few examples of shameless Bollywood actors profiting from theft…
Salman Khan – Partner (Copy of Hitch)
Akshay Kumar – Hey Babyy (Horrible lift of Three Men & a Babyy)
Amitabh Bachchan – Ek Ajanabi (Ugly copy of Man on Fire), Hum Kisi Se Kum Nahin (Ripoff of Analyze This)
For a blithering idiot who knows so little about either Hindi or Tamil movies, you make too much noise. Because of dolts like you, Indian film industry is stuck in a time-warp.
Next time, your itchy fingers feel like typing some sycophantic drivel about Tamil/Hindi movies or film stars, think a gazillion times, you nincompoop.
The torment of reading your blabbering nonsense has few parallels, you birdbrained dickhead. Learn to write a proper sentence in English.
2. Hey Ram and Moonram Pirai were good but not exceptional.
hey could you pls give me the link of ur reviews of tamil movies…..cos i dunno whether i landed on a wrong link….u have reviewed all the bad films of tamil cinema….u haven’t reviewed maniratnam, balachandar, bharathi raja, balu mahendra, selvaragavan,mysskin’s latest, cheran, balaji sakthivel, vetrimaran, amir, bala etc etc…….then y the hell do you call us idiots?????…first see all dese gr8s movies….
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. You write above: could you pls give me the link of ur reviews of tamil movies….u haven’t reviewed maniratnam, balachandar, bharathi raja, balu mahendra…
We have seen & reviewed movies from some of the directors in your list. You can find them on the SearchIndia.com blog and by searching on the SearchIndia.com directory.
omg i could find only 2 movies of maniratnam’s…. a single of balachandar’s and none of others that i have mentioned……then why do u wanna talk rubbish about tamil movies…first go deep and see all the movies and then start reviewing…rather with a little knowledge….k i know that u gonna reply something rubbish and filthy for my comment…but this is for you…”A little learning is a dangerous thing, Drink deep or taste not the Pierian spring.”(remember?)
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write above: a single of balachandar’s and none of others that i have mentioned
Kiddo, are you too dumb to read? Sigappu Rojakkal is a Kamal movie directed by Bharati Raja. It’s right there. How could you miss it?
We haven’t reviewed all the Tamil movies that we watched. Given the sheer volume of crap produced by our Tamil moviemakers, that task would be sheer torture. Sure, Balachandar, Bharati Raja, Maniratnam are not as bad as the rest.
Well I happened to watch this much hyped film yesterday – and I am really sorry to say that it was 3 hours of sheet boredom!
The only redeemable feature is Kamal’s role as Balram Naidu was interesting. The make up was ABSOLUTELY shoddy! It is very easy to identify the ‘Kamal’ there – all you have to do is to look at the only characters with a chappati dough face! And to me George Bush, Fletcher and that tall Muslim – all looked almost alike – and pathetically inadequate when it comes to dialogue delivery.
I also wonder how this movie got the U certificate. There is too much of unnecessary violence and there was a scene in which Mallika was to seduce a man – it was downright BLUE! I would not care to watch those movies with my children.
The story line – was shoddy! The heroine was irritating – she was stupid and very unintelligent – common Kamal – even a conservative girl from a village – highly religious – could have more sense! She was really STUPID. Asin was wasted there!
There was no morals conveyed either covertly or overtly! SORRY FOlKS – this is not a movie – IT IS A BLUNDER
[trash talk]
Being a tamilian, if you dont want to encourage a tamilian effort leave it, dont criticize it.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Hey Chimp (not a typo),
Just because one Tamilian made a crappy movie, it does not mean Tamils worldwide should applaud such garbage. Dasavatharam is a mediocre movie that has been rightly slammed by a chorus of critics.
Not surprisingly, the media in India is already beginning to report that Dasavatharam is not doing well at the box office. Pl see below:
Kamal Haasan’s Dasavatharam may not have done too well as far as box-office collections are concerned,…
Source: DNA Newspaper,
Prithwish Ganguly
Friday, June 20, 2008 23:59 IST
Lots of expectations and more appraisals on Uzhaga Nayagan Kamal Haasan, Dasavatharam has created fever among all. Promos say that it is the first time in the entire world where an actor dons 10 different roles in the same film. But that is something to be debated.
Please read the best unknown interesting story that none have tried getting it you… If Kamal Haasan has played 10 different roles in Dasavatharam, there is another star from Hollywood who has performed 27 roles in a flick titled ‘Queen Victoria’ that was released in 1913.
Over here, we bring you the list of actors who have performed many roles in the same film…
* Rolf Leslie – 27 parts in the life story of Queen Victoria, Sixty Years a Queen (1913).
* Lupino Lane – 24 parts in Only Me (1929).
* Joseph Henabery – 14 characters in the Birth of a Nation (1915).
* Robert Hirsch – 12 roles in No Questions on Saturday (1964).
* Michael Ripper – 9 parts in What a Crazy World (1963).
* Sivaji Ganeshan – 9 Parts in Navarathri
* Sir Alec Guinness – 8 roles in Kind Hearts and Coronets (1949).
* Eddie Murphy – 8 characters in Nutty Professor II: The Klumps (2000).
* Eddie Murphy – 7 characters in The Nutty Professor (1996).
* Jerry Lewis – 7 characters in The Family Jewels (1965).
* Peter Sellers – 6 roles in Let’s Go Crazy (1951).
* Peter Sellers – 6 roles in Soft Beds, Hard Battles (1974).
* Peter Sellers – 3 roles in Dr. Strangelove (1964) and more.
* Mike Myers – 4 roles in Austin Powers in Goldmember (2002)
* Terry Thomas – 3 parts in Arabella (1969).
* Red Skelton – 3 characters in Watch the Birdy (1930).
you wrote”Not surprisingly, the media in India is already beginning to report that Dasavatharam is not doing well at the box office. Pl see below:
Kamal Haasan’s Dasavatharam may not have done too well as far as box-office collections are concerned,…
which is completly baseless and wrong infn. it is doing a fentastic businees all aroun the world. i am from madurai a city from tamilnadu. for the first a movie release din 10 theatres in madurai.i never witnessed such a huge crowd. today i went to see the movie. it was quite interesting and a racy entertainer. it is a week day today but still houseful 25 rs tickets were sold for 50rs and 50rsticket for 75rs and 50rs ticket for 100rs and still it was housefull which was quite amazing.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
As we said earlier, we were quoting DNA, a respectable newspaper on the so-so box office response to Dasavatharam.
Please hide the post by doesitreallybother from the so-called “genius” Kamal Hassan :)). I do not want him to read this and try 28 character role next time. I am already half dead with 10. Take it easy.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
🙂
I am not here to debate whether Dasavatharam is a good movie or not but just wanted to highlight the fact that you guys have an uncanny knack of publishing only those reviews/information which seem to justify your views and conveniently ignoring the rest. For example, when publishing the bad press received by the film, you chose to ignore the good reviews from many web sites such as rediff.com and indiaglitz.com etc, thus trying to imply as if whole media has panned the movie.The same goes for the box office collections of the movie, just quoting one website as source to say that the movie is not faring well in the box office doesnt show you in good light. Please find below some info from economictimes.com on how the movie is doing in the BO.
“Coming to the domestic market or rather the regional market, Kamal Hassan’s Dasavataram raked in Rs 3 crore in Chennai, and Rs 21 crore for the whole of Tamil Nadu. In the non-Southern markets, which got about 80% occupancy, the film grossed about Rs 60 lakh in the first three days of its running.
The film is anticipated to rake in close to Rs 100 crore as its theatrical revenue at the end of this week, as Chennai theatre owners state that the bookings for the next 10 days are house-full. If compared to Rajnikant’s Sivaji the film grossed over 25 crore in its first one week. Given the current figures, Kamal Hassan is currently one up. ”
There are many other websites which provide such authentic info. I’d like to reiterate the fact that I am in no way trying to say that Dasavatharam is a great/good movie.Your views on the film are your own. I have nothing against that. But when quoting views from the press please dont selectively publish only those info which support your view. It doesn’t show a neutral reviewer in good light. Hope you take this feedback positively.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. You are wrong and your comment smacks of an attitude to hit out at the messenger if you don’t like the message. We often provide multiple sources. For instance in the post on the critical reviews received by Dasavatharam, we provided excerpts from six or seven reviews from a cross-section of the media.
2. Reliable box office information is not as easy to come by in India compared to the U.S. So we take care and provide box office information from sources that we consider credible.
3. We are generally wary of most film web sites because they seem too close to the film industry and seldom have critical reviews.
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das is a big hit commercially if you want i will send you links .once agian you have proved that you donot know anything and you just plainly talk like a fool.
what else we can expect from a review from this site’.
“One of the few saving graces of Dasavatharam was Asin Thottumkal’s performance””.Asin brings some life to this dreary movie”(bcz that crap is your favourite).the movie was fentastic .Actually asins role was intriguing in the movie.when the viewers in the hall are excited about the movie they were just going out of the hall saying ayyo iva vanthuta(oh she came).she was just simply shouting in the movie perumal perumal nothing else she did in this movie.
make ups for kamal was excellent particularly christian fletcher. viewers in the cinemahall was not able to recognize kamal in many roles such was his make up. in some roles they were able to recognize kamal by his voice but in some roles they were not able to recognize bcz he just looked like a foreigner and his accent and voice also sounded like american.makeups were exclellent
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. You write above: make ups for kamal was excellent particularly christian fletcher
You are a lone voice in the darkness…What Christian Fletcher had was not makeup but a bad attempt at makeup.
2. It seems like Dasavatharam ship is sinking. Please click here.
i don’t know how credible is indiatimes.. dasaship is sinking.
http://broadband.indiatimes.com/Audio_Slide_Shows/Dasavatharam_sinking_at_box_office/videoshow/3135534.cms
90% of the bloggers have expressed varied (they are less harsh than this site mainly because they sympathise with the effort that Kamal has put in) degrees of disappointment.. I think there are two types of people that find this movie exceptional.. 1) Kamal fantatics – we can pardon them.. 2) pseudointellectuals who think they understand the “complex” story.. they need to be put in place. The story is not “complex”.. most of the sane people hate the sordid screenplay.
I like the comments section of this website..(kudos!) on the other sites, i need to click on too many pages. Visit often to check which unsuspecting Kamal fanatic gets ambushed by you next.
It is puzzling why you chose to publish reviews of absolute stinkers like Parvai Ondrae Pothumae, Manthiran and Unarchigal!!
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. Thanks for the video link to Dasavatharam Sinking.
2. You write above: It is puzzling why you chose to publish reviews of absolute stinkers like Parvai Ondrae Pothumae, Manthiran and Unarchigal!!
We didn’t know how bad they were until we watched those horror shows.
i watched the movie second time it was really good. yesterday in a week day it was housefull kamal did very well in all roles.his makeuos are excellent and the body language,accent and dialogue delivery he used to distinguish the roles her played are excellent.in some of the roles were excellnt in both makeup and acting like balram naidu,paati,christian fletcher.some of the roles wereexcellent in acting like govind and rangaraj nambi.some of the roles lik kallifulla,japanes stuntman,georgebushwere ok in acting but good in makeup.out of 10 only georgr bush makeup was ok rest of all are excellent.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write above: i watched the movie second time it was really good
Are you the Incredible Hulk? Humans cannot withstand such torture.
Hi i watched this movie, i want to tell all the peoples something,
all educated peoples will definitely like this film and also they only can identify the theory inside the film. some fellows who doesnt know what is good film and what is bad film. even in hollywood there is no story but we are watching it. here there is many stories hiding inside a single platform and good brain work for kamal ji.im not his fan, but i give respect to hard work.
we will not accept uneducated people’s comment as review for this film.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
For a dumb guy who can’t write a simple sentence in English without making multiple mistakes, you have the cheek to call others uneducated.
You write above: here there is many stories hiding inside a single platform and good brain work for kamal ji
Sure, your kamal Ji has done such a good job in hiding the many stories inside a single platform that few could find them.
Dasavatharam is a piece of crap.
“Dasavatharam, is still booming well as days pass by. Some sources also say that this film has lived to the people’s expectations and is so loved to such an extent. The world wide collections speak the fact that Kamal is now a world renowned hero.
The Malaysia’s film collections which were accessed yesterday and they disclose that this film has bagged the second position in the Malaysia film industry and is standing in second position of the film industry. With the film grossing almost $600,468 from 54 screening theaters this film is just behind the Hollywood film “The incredible Hulkâ€.
The United Kingdom collections reports reveal that this film has till date fetched almost $278,389 and is in 11th position on the UK top ten. Sarkar Raj is being pushed by Dasavatharam to 17 positions.
The United States collections reveal that this film grossed almost $478,425 and has been placed at 13th position. But even more delightful, news is that still this movie is running full for almost 6 days and till 25th of this month the theatre shows has become full.
The Indian collections are yet to be fetched and may be available in two days.
Great going Kamal and your Dasavatharam.”
source : Times of India
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. Your grandiose claims of Dasavatharam’s box office collection are not credible because you do not provide links or dates. Pl see Is Dasavatharam Sinking?
2. You write above: Kamal is now a world renowned hero
Where – in Kodambakkam or Adyar?
A friend of mine recommended Dasavatharam to me, and informed me that I couldn’t miss out on such an ‘incredible’ film. It was far from it. In my opinion, it didn’t live up to the hype that had been created around it. I’ve appreciated Kamal Hassan’s performances since Salangai Oli, where he imitated a classically trained dancer superbly. I was utterly disappointed by his portrayal of the various 10 characters. The story line that should’ve held strong linking the 10 characters was pathetically weak. After all the Hindi trash (Tashan) I’ve been unfortunately watching, and now Tamil (Bheema) as well, I’m yearning for a decent film.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write above: After all the Hindi trash (Tashan) I’ve been unfortunately watching, and now Tamil (Bheema) as well, I’m yearning for a decent film.
We echo your sentiments (as far as Bollywood & Kollywood films).
i anyday prefer to watch pleasant faced big B in bhootnath than watching horrifying faces of kamal in dasavatharam, guess the titles of the films need to be swapped.
Is this review a joke..Maybe its a spoof.. I watched this film and i thought it was good though not brilliant ,but definitely not boring…
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Really?
I totally agree with the reviewer. It’s like selling a product on telesales. With all the hype, you buy it only to know you have wasted the money.
I wish movies like Dasa come straight to DVDs.
Hopeless movie. Wow, implementation of chaos theory!! Another person to pseudo-philosophize with butterfly effect.
I should ask him some doubts on chaotic behaviour of systems in dynamics!!
Such a pseudo kamal is.
However poor the film may be, following should be avoided:
commenting Mr.Kamal Hasan as “manga madaya”, “dinosaur of tamil movie”
commenting him to do less taxing pursuits like “aadu, maadu maikara vela”
commenting Mr. Prakash Raj & Mr. Prithviraj as B-grade stars without solid proof
comparing the movie with worst examples of making of guiness records
I better recommend that you make your criticism far more mature and precise to the point.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write above: However poor the film may be, following should be avoided….
Then, what should we call Kamal – a ripoff artist? Because Dasavatharam was so bad that the $15 ticket price is a total ripoff plus the driving time + gas + toll.
you are definitely not neutral you have bunch of admirers like pasupathi,asin,meera jasmine irrespective of their performance you will appreciate their performance and you have bunch of hatters like ajit,trisha ,jothika.what ever their performance is you will definitely pull down their performance.it is clear from your review. asin is the only disturbing thing in this movie but you are saying asin is the only saving grace.you said pasupathi is million times better actor than kamal.what a comedy are you a crap totally .do you at least watched kamals old movies. even pasupathi will laugh loudly for this comment.pasupathi after his brilliant performance in veyil was refered as blackkamalthat shows the standard of kamal.pasupathi was nothing before virumandi only because of kamal he became a good actor.even pasupathi said that he learned the art of acting from kamal.kamal with his fine performance over decades have surprassed all legendary hollywood actors like alpacino, tom hanks, russel crowe, kevin spacey, jim carrey, marlyn brando, robert dino, eddie murphy, roger moore and mel gibson.even if this all ten actors act in one movie they couldnot better the ten roles played by kamal haasan. if you say kamal is not a universal hero and world renowed hero even the actors who played as james bond,mat demon are not world renowed heroes bcz they are not known in villages like paalpatti or kiripatti
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write above: kamal with his fine performance over decades have surprassed all legendary hollywood actors like … russel crowe
Kamal may be a better actor than most crows (kaka) but he’s NOT better than Russell Crowe.
Russell Crowe won the Oscar but Kamal only acts in Asscar movies.
Notwithstanding your baseless canards, SearchIndia.com is the most neutral site.
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I was watching the interview from Tom Hanks, Kevin Spacey (this is in youtube too) and the leading director Steven Spielberg(he got applause for more than 2 min) in the program called “ACTOR’s STUDIO” in BRAVO channel. They were humble and their reply was straight to the point. Especially Steven was narrating some of the scenes in the movie “Schindler’s List” and other movies. We can see their expertise in their arena. There is no half cooked meal in their reply and very matured in their thoughts. Marlin Brando is still considered as an icon. He did not copy “Don Corlene” role from another actor (instead Kamal try to mimic this in NAYAGAN with chewing the Betel and talking in the low voice). Tom Hanks started his career as ordinary comedian (Money Pit, The Burp) and became a legend with his performance in Forrest Gump (In Rhythm, the feather flying is copied from this movie), Philadelphia, Saving Private Ryan (he really earned it, though he did not get the oscar for that). So please stop comparing these people with the ULAGANAYAGAN. It shows your stupidity and your attitude of “Kundu Sattikkil Kuthurai” (dont know how to translate this).
Kamal is trying his copy cat for long time. His acting neither suits Tamil audience (after Mooram Pirai, he is quite normal in this) or the west side audience. He is much a confused desi now and to me he looks like a psycho who wants to overtake everybody by his acting with his very little ability.
The last post was actually made in reference to the poster dilip.
whats wrong in calling him a rip-off artist? i wasted my money. I am a student (ironically doing my research on chaotic systems) and can’t afford to waste my money on nonsense.
Stop being a kamal fanatic. Be objective, only then you can make people produce good Tamil movies. Kamal doesnt give a hoot about how fanatic you are as long as he makes the money.
Be fair. I can trust the reviewer who is objective with her opinions rather than a fanatic who doesnt see anything beyond Kamal.
For all you know, Kamal might have a laugh -‘ look, whatever i feed them with, they eat happily!!’.
Be a good consumer and make producers fund movies which are good. well, what is good ? ‘dasavatharam is not’!
Wow!! someone compared kamal and russell crowe..what next? kamal is better than danny-day lewis?
man, i dont understnad this. what made u compare kamal and russel crowe? u got some skewed thoughts here
SearchIndia.com Responds:
The same person who said Kamal was better than Russell Crowe also found Kamal to be far ahead of Marlon Brando, Al Pacino, Robert De Niro, Tom Hanks, Eddie Murphy et al.
Go figure.
hi fanatics like onetwothree and jingle who admire white skin just stop .kamalhaasan has not copied anyones style throughout his carrear. he has done different range of roles definitley more than any actor in the world cinema.he has not copied marlonbrando or tomhanks or alpacino or anybody definitely kamal is far ahead of these actors.ok if at all nayagan is a copy.what about mondrampirai,mahanadhi,guna,thevarmagan,salangaioli,sirpikulmuthu,appu raja,indian .in all these movies he has given great performance thats why he got 4 national film awards .definitley national film awards is prestigious than oscar award because it is given by president of a nation.
see what the reviewer has to say two years before when vettaiyyadu vilaiyaadu released “One of India’s gifted actors, Kamal Haasan never really gives us a glimpse of his vaunted acting capabilities in Vettaiyaadu Vilaiyaadu leaving us very disappointed”.this clearly shows kamalhaasan is a great actor but now reviewer has taken a sudden “u” turn after admiring some white skin like other fanatics in the forum.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Please read the review & comments carefully. Implicit in our review and comments is the fact that Kamal is far ahead of other Indian actors and therefore expectations are higher from him.
I compared kamal and russel crowe to show that kamal is best in the world in the department of acting.it is a fact.definitely kamal will not be awarded oscar in his life time but he dont need that because it is only meant for americans and white people in europe.i have seen forrestgump,saving private ryan,beautiful mind,godfather,julius caesar only after that i am saying kamal is best in the world.but you fanatics would not have seen any classical performnaces of kamalhaasan.i have seen both sides of the coin not like reviewer and other fantics in the forum who just admire hollywood actors.
what hurts me is not your review,(Maybe I agree with your review …Dasavatharam is not good, its a trash, yes it is) but you are absolutely rude when commenting back you know.. You might argue that people were criticizing you badly, either you can ignore them or answer back politely.That has to be your character.Your arguments with others is giving a vision that you are a hater of the Indian Movies …
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1.You write above: Your arguments with others is giving a vision that you are a hater of the Indian Movies
You are wrong. We hate bad movies, be it from Bollywood, Kollywood or Hollywood.
2. You write: what hurts me is not your review…but you are absolutely rude when commenting back you know
Rude? Us? Aw, come on sweetie pie, you must be confusing us with some ruffians. We are the epitome of sweetness.
3. In your previous comment (posted on June 26th, 2008 at 6:15 am), you wrote: I watched this film and i thought it was good. Now, you write above – Dasavatharam is not good, its a trash, yes it is
What happened in the last two days for you take such a 180-degree turn…your pea-sized brain just melted.
Another hard hitting review.. Me and my friends watched it FDFS and came out of the cinema hall with a head ache.. Thumbs down to Kamal.
Enough!! Pea Sized Brain ?.Hey its too much. Wanna see my qualifications? Well you made me change me mind about the movie..But i will always say your review is as bad as a crap movie..
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. You write above: Wanna see my qualifications?
We are not endowed with the ability to see things that don’t exist.
2. You write: Well you made me change me mind about the movie..But i will always say your review is as bad as a crap movie..
According to you, our Dasavatharam review was crap. Yet by your own admission you were so influenced by it…to the extent it changed your opinion of Dasavatharam in 48 hours. So, are you that easily influenced by crap?
Well forgive this peanut brain for all its comments and for being extremely intolerant..Bye Bye.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Sayonara.
Some Hollywood fantics are just trying to pull down kamls performance in naygan by saying it is just a copy of godfather and he just tried to imitate marlobrando.nayagan was just inspired from godfather kaml was inspire by marlon brando’s performance in that movie but not copied his acting. Kamal did a great job in nayagan thats why he got national ward for that movie..most of the glorious hollywood movies are like usaulsuspects, juliuscaesar, sleepless in seatle, terminal,cast away, forrest gump are great bcz of good scrpit, good presentation,good cinemotography not bcz of acting.most of big actors like marlon brando, al pacino, kevin spacey, robert di nero, tom hanks, gene hackman,russel crowe, have not even done dual roles in their carrear. do any of these acotrs know to write screenplayor will be able to direct. kamal haasan with his fine performnace in movielike mahandhi, guna, thevarmagan, salangaioli, sirpikulmuthu has shown he is better than these great hollywood actors.
I can see some hollywood fanatics admiring hollywood actors blindly.kamal is not marlon brando or al pacino or tom hanks or genne hackman or kevin spacey or rusell crowe or robertdinero.he is ahead of them.take top movies of these actors and take top movies of kamal haasan like mahandhi, guna, thevarmagan, salangaioli, sirpikulmuthu one will defintely say kamal is best actor in the globe.
Can any actor in the world do multiple role in a movie with excellent makeups with unique body language,with with different dialogue delivery and unique accent and slang for each character like this.i dont think so.
Wow.
Wotta blog.
One harsh review and several so called punishing comments..It started with chandru so incensed for hurting his Kamalji.And it continued with too many dashavatars..Few protagonists and many antagonists..Someone claims to be a student who studies Chaotic Theory. Maybe he was a forerunner among people who reads about that in Wiki. Gosh its hard what to believe these days. The reviewer must have worked as a steward in indian airlines. Lol he punishes everyone who questions him..He thrashes even decent comments. Poor Ravivilas got himself called as Grandma, but that was really funny..preethi87 got really annoyed. Atleast she gave up decently. Oi reviewer you should have given an apology to that peaSized Brain ..It seems Dilip will not give up that easily as long as this site survives..Anyway he assumes that his blogs are worth posting to see the reviewer’s Blood pressure Rising. Continue Dilip and good luck to you ..I want the number of blogs to reach a magical number of 200. Anyway Mr.Reviewer (or MISS MRS) i want to know how come Aparchit(i mean Anniyan) a good film compared to Dasavatharam (you said to BalramNaidoo)>it was as bad a crap as Dasa.
OOh iam going to submit now. i am too afraid about the consequences.. I am waiting for some foul words about this crap of mine. Anyway I am applauding the reviewer and His enemies for restraining from sexually embarassing words in this Mahabharat. Kudos to cultured Tamils and to other Indians too. And do review Aparichit.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. You write above:
The reviewer must have worked as a steward in indian airlines.
How many times I telled you to pot on your sheet belt. [Is that how the stewards in Indian Airlines speak? Gosh, it’s been so long since we left Indian shores that we’ve forgotten how those constipated souls treat their cattle passengers]
2. You write: i want to know how come Aparchit(i mean Anniyan) a good film compared to Dasavatharam (you said to BalramNaidoo)>it was as bad a crap as Dasa
Given the pitiful standard of Tamil movies, Anniyan/Aparichit was a well-executed movie with a fairly decent theme (multiple-personality disorder). Of course, it had all the excesses of Tamil movies (like the screaming and some weird, gravity-defying stunt scenes)
3. You write: Anyway I am applauding the reviewer and His enemies for restraining from sexually embarassing words in this Mahabharat
You are wrong. All the restraining has been one-sided – i.e. from our side only. We’ve had to mercilessly excise some of the filthiest comments this side of the Atlantic and that side of the Pacific from our detractors (and we’re not even talking of the malicious attacks on our servers).
4. You write: It seems Dilip will not give up that easily as long as this site survives
We suspect our tormentor Dilip has many avatars too. We see posts with identical tones under different names from him/her/it. Maybe, he/she/it watched Anniyan/Aparichit one too many times.
SearchIndia.com will survive until the last cockroach survives (apparently cockroaches have been around before the dinosaurs and are considered great survivors).
Yeah i too think Dilip has too many avatars here..He must really love Kamal that he never gives up..
Just one thing Reviewer, dont compare our countrymen to Cattle (of course they might be a little indisciplined in flights). Its bad to say that. Very Very Bad. It hurts to hear this from a professional reviewer of movies ..And please dont try to argue back with me about this matter. (And you dont look like a person who can step down to apologize.)
Coming about Aparichit maybe Tamil actor Vikram has done a good job you can say ,but i still dont understand its better than Dasa. Maybe I have to sit and watch the two movies together to judge the better one and finally get an awful headache….
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. You write above: Just one thing Reviewer, dont compare our countrymen to Cattle
To compare our countrymen to cattle would be an insult to cattle, which are mostly bovine in disposition. The sight of a city bus or train seems to rouse the beast in them.
2. Vikram is a decent actor compared to his buffoon peers like Ajith, Simbhu, Arjun et al.
Oh Boy !!!! You are really unpleasant. You are mocking at unfortunate people who are dying due to Poverty and fighting for their everyday survival. After all preethi87, Ravivilas and few others comments about you were correct. Maybe i will be getting another rude one back now…
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. You write: You are mocking at unfortunate people who are dying due to Poverty and fighting for their everyday survival
Far from it. Going by your ridiculous inferences, you were obviously dropped on your head one too many times as a child.
It’s a shame that people are still dying of abject poverty in India (as they are elsewhere too) but that’s primarily because of the rapacious appetite of the rich class, the bovine apathy of the middle-class and the malignant corruption of the ruling class.
2. In any case, all of this has nothing to do with the Dasavatharam horror show.
Alright leave this issue..
SearchIndia.com responds:
Done.
I really liked the reviews but.. when it turns to be a racial comment it is disgusting..
The reviewer calls indians as Cattle forgetting the fact that he wss one among them…
you can turn your skin as white as the stupid Michael Jackson did.. but still your kids would be ABCDs(American Born Confused Desis)..
I have been to US and witnessed what kind of life you guys are leading there… so pathetic..
you guys are mostly referred as ‘refugees’ by the American Govt officials…
who r the cattle now?
The reality is…
We Indians are living in our own huts..
but you guys are leading a life of slaves in a palace
SearchIndia.com Responds:
The summer heat melted your brains?
Just because we refer to some passengers or people rushing into trains/buses as cattle, we become racist? There’s an English word called context…you might want to look it up.
By the way, let’s not forget the Mother country of Racism – India, where SCs/STs and backward castes are treated worse than cattle even today. You sanctimonious freakshow.
Mitchell, I edited one of the articles on chaotic theory on wiki.
Anyways, this is less about Kamal I think. Dasavatharam is crap.
Just finished watching ‘there will be blood’. dilip, danny-day lewis worst acting baaa….i only liking our thalaivar kamal baa…
This is in response to jingle who wrote “instead Kamal try to mimic this in NAYAGAN with chewing the Betel and talking in the low voice). Tom Hanks started his career as ordinary comedian (Money Pit, The Burp) and became a legend with his performance in Forrest Gump”. We indians are not one having “attitude of kundu chattikula kuthirai”. we have seen all the great hollywood actors we have exposure to both hollywood and Indian movies. Only after that we are saying Kamal Haasan is best in the world. Kamal has not copied marlon brando acting in nayagan. nayagan and godfather are no way related they are different movies with different stories.only one scene is similar chewing the betel speaking in low voice which was already done by sivaji ganesan in old movie which he just tryed to imitate from sivjai ganesan. leave alone nayagan kamal has delivered fine perfomance in other movies like guna,anbesivam,mahhanadhi,heyram,appuraja,….range of roles he did as oldman ,oldwoman, blind, pshycopath, carmechanic,cop, lady,shortman, mentally retarded was far more than any great Hollywood actors. you said tom hanks started his carear doing small roles and then he became a legedn acting in forrestgum.so what?does that make him great actor than kamalhaasan.no way.kamal too satrtd his carrear doing samll roles like negative roles in sivakumar,jaishankars movie.then he became legend acting in moondram pirai.and then there is no looking back.he got 4 national awards .he was honoured living legend he has honorary doctorate.
Moreover if at all he tried to mimic marlon brando in one scene in nayagan in rest of the movie he delivered a great performance which fetched him a national award.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Sure, Kamal Haasan is better than Marlon Brando, Al Pacino, Robert De Niro, Tom Hanks, Robert Redford, Forrest Whitaker, Russell Crowe and even that cutie pie Jenna Jameson.
We also think Kamal Haasan is better than Isaac Newton, Thomas Alva Edison, Albert Einstein, CV Raman, Madam Curie, AK Sen, Mother Theresa and even Rabindranath Tagore.
Did you know that Kamal Haasan is better than anything that walks, swims or flies.
Yes, could have left this issue, only if the die hard Tamil fans only understood that they have been exposed to mediocre stuff all this while and they accept the fact. Instead of meaninglessly bosing around for such a stupid story…
I watched this movie with a lot of hopes, being a kamal fan. If only I had read this review, think I could have saved my money, and used it for something worth while.
I think,
1. there was no story what so ever in this movie.
2. Asin’s character was so pathetic (she might have acted it well). But I’m talking about the character. Such pathetic….The whole IInd half revolves because of her stupidity. running around for an idol, when there is lot other things to be taken care of.
3. Cant Imagine (Mr.)George Bush speaking Tamil!!. (his highness, will not even to bother to speak in French/German 🙂 Forget Tamil ). BTW if anyone has to survive there, they need to know Tamil, no matter it is Mr. Bush or Sarkozy 🙂 (not kidding)
4. Cannot imagine 2 officials being allowed to talk in any regional language (that too, Indian language) in a high post US office. Bakwaas…
5. Technology was nothing great.
6. Some of the characters’ make up was so over done, felt “yuck”!!
7. Above all, a throat cancer getting cured!!!!!What the ***
Yes!! only Tamil can make such movies and Tamil movie fans can watch it and admire such a bakwaas…
Pathetic. Expected something wonderfl frrom such a talented actor like Kamal Sir.
SearchIndia.com Responds
You write Above: Cant Imagine (Mr.)George Bush speaking Tamil!!. (his highness, will not even to bother to speak in French/German Forget Tamil ).
Forget Tamil, our President George W.Bush has a hard time speaking English.
Examples abound of Bush’s problems with the English language – 1. Too many good docs are getting out of the business. Too many OB/GYN’s aren’t able to practice their love with women all across the country. 2. “Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we,” Bush said. “They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.” and many many more. 🙂
Do u think ur someone diff in writtin reviews frm others???…BULL SHIT…
ur comments sucks big time….
PPL…i wont say “plz forgive him for his review”…
But,…PLLLLLZZZZZZZZZ….use all those words that wuld make him realise that KAMAL s the GOD of CINEMA!!!!!
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You must be the headless wonder we’ve been longing to meet for a while.
kamal fanatics anonymous!
SearchIndia.com Responds:
True, very true.
Hi SearchIndia.com Reviewer, if I want to send you a private email, how do I go about it?
Thanks
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Please post your comment as you normally do. We will not publish it for public viewing.
Many praises for a well composed review and hilarious retorts.
Some friends and I were tricked by my bitter half into watching this movie. During the intermission my friend asked me to accompany him to his car so that he can get out his tire iron and have me hit him with it and spare the torture of watching the whole movie.
Anyhow we did walk out immediately after the intermission. I don’t want to say anything about the movie because you have said it all and besides it’s not worth commenting about.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Like you, we too had a sick feeling but watched the horrow-show in full.
These fanatics just cannot accept anything against their ‘God’…even if it were about the movie! C’mon now, if the movie aint good, it aint good, why try to convince?! You liked it, keep it to yourself…the reviewer didnt like it – SHUT UP!
Anyway, @SearchIndia.com – I was wondering if you’d also review hollywood movies that release in India. Most of them, if not all run here and it’d be great to review them prior.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
We do have a limited selection of Hollywood reviews. Will expand this section.
P.S.: We’ve just added the review of the new Will Smith/Charlize Theron movie Hancock, which is scheduled to release in India on July 11. The movie released in the U.S. on July 2.
Mitchell wants to see the blogs reach 200, what’s so magical about 200? Is it the highest number of blogs a movie review has ever received ?
Lucky for all those Kamal Fans, SearchIndia.com somehow missed this point.
Kamal Fans would fume had SearchIndia.com Responded by saying “With many sophomoric clowns praising Kamal & Dasavatharam around we are sure this blog would reach 200 BUT not sure if the horror show will run for that many days to haunt more people like us”
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write above: what’s so magical about 200
What does it matter if the number is 200 or 300. As long as the SearchIndia.com blog entertains at least some readers, we’re happy.
I used to watch Kalakka povathu Yaaru and Asatha Povathu Yaaru for timepass.
I have one more now. Please don’t stop, keep going.
Regards,
Bals
what kind a movies do u really like? hehehe million dollar question…..ur review sucks man……..
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write above: what kind a movies do u really like?
Quality movies like Johnny Gaddar, Manorama Six Feet Under, Virumandi, Sigappu Rojakkal, Tell No One (French), Kontroll (Hungarian), Pan’s Labyrinth and movies from directors like Martin Scorsese, Francis Ford Coppola, George Lucas, Steven Spielberg etc who know the craft of film-making.
OneTwoThree, I am Sorry I made fun of you ………..
“Know a days Tamil and Telugu film industry attracted by all of the peoples in the world.”
That’s how another superb review starts.( i never knew there was a plural form to the word people)
“http://katamsrinivas.wordpress.com/2008/06/14/dasavatharam-tamil-140-crore-movie-photos-videos-pictures-review-news/”
Hey reviewer, please learn to write a review like the above one ..Maybe Kamal lovers here should also post there .. One comment says says Dasa will win an Oscar. How fascinating!
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. You write above: i never knew there was a plural form to the word people
You lazy slob, is it that difficult to pick up a dictionary and see if people has a plural form. Yes, it does (Source: Merriam-Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary 11th Edition P.917. a body of persons that are united by a common culture, tradition, or sense of kinship, that typically have common language, institutions, and beliefs, and that often constitute a politically organized group).
We wouldn’t use peoples as your buddies have done in the above link.
2. You quote: One comment says says Dasa will win an Oscar.
Oscar, no…Asscars, they swept the awards.
Funny why people are so obsessed with the Oscars which hardly ever look at the non English movies (and they even expect an Oscar for a crappy one)..Why don’t they realize that ‘national awards’,not Oscars, is the relative base for judging a good movie in India..
The reviewer reminds me of the Harry Potter Character,Rita Skeeter.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
And you remind us of the ugliest of Macbeth’s three witches.
Yet ,I like Rita Skeeter.
Why is the need for such rudeness..”I will be delighted to hear the reasoning behind the rudeness, Rita”
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Rude…us? Surely, you must be confusing us with someone else.
Or is it the aftershock of watching Dasavatharam. Maybe, Kuselan will help.
Personally I like Dasavatharam. But I am not that stupid to argue here. If the reviewer doesn’t like the movie, then the reviews naturally reflect his/her views about it. Different people have different taste..Like mochachillo said its better to shut up and enjoy the movie as we like it..
SearchIndia.com Responds:
De gustibus non est disputandum.
SearchIndia.com writes “And you remind us of the ugliest of Macbeth’s three witches.”
And they say they were never rude.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
If you can’t stand the heat…stay out of the kitchen. What did you expect when you refer to this esteemed blog in a disrespectful tone. That we would turn the other cheek?
In any case, this blog is about Tamil, Bollywood and Hollywood movies and other (hopefully interesting) stuff. Not about insignificant us and the even more insignificant you.
Its a extremely rude review..
Pardon me for my words but you are like Ram Gopal Verma with his Sholay 2.. Just because you have the right to review doesnt mean that you can write whatever you want.. Ramu did that thinking tht we will digest whatever he dishes out.
Every scene cannot be perfect. Only God can do tht.. and certainly if you can find so many faults from a great person like Kamal.. just think where do you and me stand !!!!
A sincere request is to appreciate good things when you see it rather than looking at some other hollywood movies.. at the same time.. if fault finding is the mantra.. i believe we can find fault in lot of the “Quality movies” I would not do it as I feel I am not qualified enough to quetion greatness.. but neither do u So Pls gro up from the petty ego clashes that you have built up ..
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. After reading your above comment, we had a deja vu feeling that we had encountered this moron somewhere else. Then we realized that you are the same geniass that made the fatuous remark of the decade yesterday: Hollywood movie are good only in technology but zero in acting (Your comment made on on July 5th, 2008 at 11:56 pm to the post Movie Critics Tear Apart Dasavatharam
2. You write above: Its a extremely rude review..
No, our Dasavatharam review was an objective work from SearchIndia.com. Actually, Kamal Haasan is rude to his fans by dishing out a mediocre movie like Dasavatharam.
3. Kamal Haasan is not a great person. Unless you compare him to non-actors like Ajith, Nayantara, Abhishek Bachchan, Trisha, Harman Baweja et al. Kamal is a good actor but not outstanding.
4. You write above: if you can find so many faults from a great person like Kamal.. just think where do you and me stand
We don’t know about you but we are on terra firma (literally and figuratively).
SearchIndiaCom writes “What did you expect when you refer to this esteemed blog in a disrespectful tone”..
But I was never disrespectful to you in any of my comments.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
While Rita Skeeter has some interesting qualities at first glance, we wouldn’t want an esteemed blog like SearchIndia.com to be compared to an unsavory journalist like her, whose stories are often false.
For all those dimwits who claim that Dasa has a great story..
read this:
http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-news-1/jul-08-01/kamal-04-07-08.html
he admits that did this movie to fulfil his desire to do 10 roles.. i appreciate his honesty.. he probably read many of the scathing blogs. Thank God for the Internet.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Very interesting.
Not accepting any more comments ,are we?
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Sure we are. Just not the ad nauseum, ad infinitum repetitive kind.
I loved the movie not for its Story but for the enormous effort Kamal has put in. I think Kamal himself despises the storyline.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write above: I think Kamal himself despises the storyline.
Voila, then he made an idiot of several million fans with a despicable storyline.
You know I never watched this Dasavatharam movie.Actually i was going through the Hancock review ( i was seriously disappointed with Hancock),but i was surprised that the reviewer liked it.I liked the way you reviewed it.And so i browsed through the site and found this particular blog really funny.. So i compared you genuinely to one of my favorite fictional character only to get a shocking one back.
I have read so many of your counter comments.You particularly enjoy annoying your fair criticizers that they have pea sized brains , that they were dropped on their heads several times and what is that term, yes ‘geniass’ . Every Human’s brain approximately weighs the same and its a priceless gift from Heavens.. Trust me if i were you I would have never called arunr by that term because he started “Pardon me for my words” , a fine moral value which we can never find in you,Rita.
And can you see i never said anything rude about you till now, i never annoyed you ,Yet why should you censor comments that i post?
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Will someone please fling this whining creature off a tall cliff?
This sanctimonious, moralizing, pompous preacher has not seen that freak-show Dasavatharam. What is it doing here among the bipeds?
By the way, you sound like one of those oddball characters in Dasavatharam called Kalifullah. God, we hope you don’t look like Kalifullah!
Thank You.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Ah, what do we have here…Miss Manners?
Mr.Reviewer.,
Whatever led you to the decision that Vettayadu Vilayaadu was a flop? I just wanted to ask on what basis you have deduced this data. Any official figures?
btw- I’m no kamal fan baying for your blood. But I think Dasavatharam was a good effort, had its blotches in makeup and graphics- and I dont see any other way in which a commercial movie like this could be taken- apart from better graphics, makeup. (Be it for the record, or any other thing – this film is certainly anything but a dud as you put it- I don’t think morning and matinee shows for weekdays in elite theatres like inox or sathyam and also normal theatres like udayam will be filled after 3+ weeks of release of a movie, unless its got the entertainment value.)
If you go by the figures, then the trade says Dasavatharam is a hit.
Lets see how you review Kuselan though – waiting for it 🙂
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write above: Mr.Reviewer.,
1. Mr.Reviewer? When did you sneak a peek under our dress? 🙂
2. You write: Whatever led you to the decision that Vettayadu Vilayaadu was a flop? I just wanted to ask on what basis you have deduced this data. Any official figures?
We used dud in the sense of little or no worth (Merriam-Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary 11th Edition, P.385)
3. You write: Dasavatharam was a good effort, had its blotches in makeup and graphics
Dasavatharam was one, lengthy, hideous blotch. Makeup for some of the characters was a disgrace.
4. You write: I don’t think morning and matinee shows for weekdays in elite theatres like inox or sathyam and also normal theatres like udayam will be filled after 3+ weeks of release of a movie, unless its got the entertainment value
When we were young (a million years ago) and growing up in Tamil Nadu, there used to be local fairs centered around some festival in the small towns that would attract crowds. One of the biggest crowd-puller was invariably for the freak-show tent…people and animals with unusual body characteristics. Go figure.
No, a poor man who loves art..
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. Playing the martyr act, are we? 🙂
2. You write above: a poor man who loves art..
Strange though it may seem to you, we belong in the same category – poor folks who love art. Nah, make that poor, passionate folks who love art.
Nice way of taking apart my comments. Different people, different opinions . 🙂
“Have no fear of perfection, you will never reach it”.
Salvador Dali
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Agreed.
Hey, this is our blog. And we definitely, always want to have the last word. Are we doing a bad job in getting across that fact?
Sometimes I should say your reviews are really good, like the one on Kuruvi., but other times like “Dasa..” it kind of contradicts with opinion of the general populace at definitive places.
And hey, do check out the chaos theory and the butterfly effect they used in this movie- alongwith the detail that has gone into the background like sets/camerawork/editing. (mebbe u have done tht already and still find it boring) but, I found the movie more interesting when I read about the two theories and then saw it again.
This is a suggestion – a critic dissecting movies like you could as well try dissecting the work of the technicians in the industry, and mebbe coming up with who is the best and whom can we place expectations on to give us the best. for eg: junta may not know how more or less effective nirav shah mebbe when compared to a ravi k chandran, or someone else. I check out your reviews, and feel it would be good if you could place a little more onus on technicians than what you already do in your reviews.
One doubt – who exactly is the target audience of searchindia.com , if there is any ? this is just outta curiosity.
Another doubt – do you check indian box office figures or go by the US ones for tamil movies?
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. You write above: who exactly is the target audience of searchindia.com
Anyone, anywhere with lots of time to waste.
2. You write: Sometimes I should say your reviews are really good, like the one on Kuruvi., but other times like “Dasa..” it kind of contradicts with opinion of the general populace at definitive places
Kuruvi was an abomination. Maybe, our expectation from Kamal Haasan is much higher than from Podi Pasanga (kids) like Vijay, Surya, Ajith et al
3. Objective Box Office info for Tamil movies is hard to come by. It’s relatively easier to get Box Office data for Hollywood & Bollywood movies. Since SearchIndia.com is based in the U.S., we tend to focus a lot on the numbers here. We think desis are the same …you can take Indians out of India but not the India out of Indians…
No,you make a really good job. No matter how obnoxious your comments may seem to some fans of Kamal Haasan, your art of defending your “esteemed blog” is highly superior . This Kalifullah Khan always admire Rita’s art of dominance in her blogs but not her language surely..
“who exactly is the target audience of searchindia.com?
Anyone, anywhere with lots of time to waste.”
True,Absolutely True ..Well reasoned.
You said Kamal “made an idiot of several million fans with a despicable storyline.” But i dont think that way .Indians have got a different way of judging the movies .Many people i knew liked Dasa due to its special effects. (Of course there may be some Pseudo lovers) But people like me gets impressed with the special effects so much that we forget about the story line,we just get mesmerized ..
As far as the Indian standard is concerned I think this is a good movie though.Because you live abroad maybe you have got a different perception of things.For example i watched a movie “Sweeney Todd the Demon barber of the fleet street ” .In the midway i felt like running away because i felt it was really boring. But critically this movie was well received among the reviewers in the States.But we who had grown up watching Vijay’s crap movies always fail to judge Hollywood’s art and are seriously satisfied with movies like Dasa..
When i grow up and learn English vocabulary really well and watch foreign movies,maybe i will have some different perception about movies.And maybe i will be able to judge Dasa then..
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Sarcastic, are we? Why do we have a deja vu feeling with this comment?
Aurora (Has Elnino which is the phenomenon usually noticed around Christmas time in the Pacific Ocean off the west coast of South America – anything to do with your name?.)
The target audience must be ANY ONE from anywhere who accidentally bumps into this site (like me) and gets hooked ( Look at the WOW!s above – before they post their comments).
They need not necessarily have lots of time to waste. For me visiting this blog once in while is like watching Asatha Povathu Yaaru for timepass – as said by Bals (kamalkanth).
Mitchell, if you are still dropping by – its just 15 more to go to see your magical number !
If its relatively easy to get box office data for Bollywood, then why not for Kollywood ? Both are desis anyway…
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write above: If its relatively easy to get box office data for Bollywood, then why not for Kollywood ? Both are desis anyway…
Bollywood movies have been running for a longer time in the U.S., and in more theatres, in mainstream theatres like Regal, AMC…and Eros, Yash Raj Films, UTV, Ad Labs et al have a smooth – almost assembly-line like – operation for exhibiting Hindi films. So Bollywood box office info is easily available from credible sources.
In contrast, exhibition of Kollywood (Tamil) movies in the U.S. is not a streamlined operation…prints don’t arrive sometimes, shows are cancelled or postponed without notice, ticket availability is erratic, tickets are more expensive, Tamil movies run mostly only in crappy theatres (not major American theatres like AMC, Regal) although we’re beginning to see some change now. End result is that the whole haphazard nature of exhibiting Tamil movies in the U.S. makes it difficult to get box office info from credible sources.
Ya ‘What_if’ ,waiting for a double century.
HP_David says ‘Yet why should you censor comments that i post?’ .Is it true? What did he post that was so irritating?
SearchIndia.com Responds:
We did not process that whining post because it had nothing to do with Dasavatharam. Since you asked, we’ve processed it along with our response. Pl see HP_David’s full comment Jul 6, 8:24 PM
What is really bad about this movie is, Kamal missed a nice chance of making it to 15 roles…
1. Asin
2. Asin – 2
3. Baskar
4. Napoleon
5. P. Vasu
what the heck, all you need is $10 mask from the walmart. If the producer (feel real pity on him 🙁 as well as angry) allows he can push it to 20 character also. If Kamal is a genuius, then we can even call the Oranguttan as same. In jungle book, the oranguttan put better show than “Mr ULAGANAYAGAN”.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080709024811AAtKOsD
amusing! Who would that be? Is it Dilip posing as a girl?
I think it is HP_David, because he/she has answered some HP questions on yahoo.
SearchIndia,com Responds:
Unbelievable. Straight out of Ripley’s Believe it or Not.
Hey!Are you accusing me ?
Trust me ,I have better things to do at Yahoo answers like answering technical questions. Of course I had always protested against Rudeness but I will never run a blog that will irritate others. I had never even spilled a word about you outside this site.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Does someone, somewhere sell Learn English in 3000 days via Tamil? We’d like to send you a copy.
Read the previous comment again, again …and see our response as well.
Get a life.
Hey I dont understand your comment
‘Sarcastic, are we? Why do we have a deja vu feeling with this comment?’
Kindly elaborate.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
We believe we were writing in English not in Swahili.
Searchindia.com sums up the movie accurately but with some rather strong words (it probably did not take much for the movie to light the reviewer’s apparently short fuse ;-)). I went to the movie with lots of expectations but was sorely disappointed with what was dished out. A weak plot, weaker dialogs, poor screenplay and poor characterization were the highlights of this much hyped, much talked about film.
I simply can’t understand why Kamal Haasan still thinks the audience will gleefully accept whatever he manages to throw at them. One feels he should stick to making good down-to-earth movies that dont borrow from or try to match Hollywood standards and that deliver on quality in terms of story and screenplay.
Its all well to talk about the effort behind the movie, the chaos theory and the butterfly effect and things but what is it that the audience get at the end of the day? This is what most people
who have defended the movie in this thread have failed to see. If the movie’s no good then nobody cares about the effort or concept behind it! Its worthless.
I have a request for Searchindia.com. I recently watched the film ‘The Excorcism of Emily Rose’ by Scott Derrickson and was moved a great deal by it. I would like to know your take on it if you’ve watched it please.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. You write above: I simply can’t understand why Kamal Haasan still thinks the audience will gleefully accept whatever he manages to throw at them.
Most Indian film-maker suffer from this illusion. They fail to realize that people have lots of choices these days.
2. You write: I have a request for Searchindia.com. I recently watched the film ‘The Excorcism of Emily Rose’ by Scott Derrickson and was moved a great deal by it. I would like to know your take on it if you’ve watched it please.
We’ve just aded your recommendation The Excorcism of Emily Rose to our Netflix queue and intend to watch it shortly.
Hi
Sorry for my question , there are no connection with Dasavatharam ( after reading your review i don’t want to see them …) and there are no review of GHAJINI .
Do anyone know why the movie GHAJINI is called “GHAJINI” ?
Thanks
inching towards 200
“The title is said to be inspired by an invader of India named Mahmud Ghazni who failed many times until he succeeded, much like the protagonist of the movie fails many times and then succeeds in achieving his goals. Finally, on the 18th time, he was successful.”
says some guy in wikipedia..
They golti-ized the word “Ghazni” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmud_Ghazni
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Given that the hero Sanjay Ramaswamy could not save his lady love, can we really say the hero succeeded in achieving his goals? Or maybe, that’s a narrow way of looking at it.
guys u r review suck big time…but the prob is this movie is meant to be a entertainer….so logic does not have much say…….btw out of curiosity i am waiting for your review of the stupid rajnikanth movie kuslean …fyi i did not bother to check the reviews of sivaji on web cause ther will be hell lot of pathetic chaps like u who just worship Rajni because of his personal life…i am very sure if sivaji is released again same story but different actresses you guys will njoy cause of your stupidity ….pity u ……..i am not sure whether u would given good review for Anbe Sivam also…prob is with u r mentality not undersatnd the value of a product until u lose it….
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1.You write above: ther (sic) will be hell lot of pathetic chaps like u who just worship Rajni because of his personal life
As we’ve said ad nauseum, ad infinitum, we are not in any camp. We are only fans of good cinema.
2. You write: i am very sure if sivaji is released again same story but different actresses you guys will njoy cause of your stupidity ….pity u
It’s hard to believe that you belong to the Homo Sapiens race, like the rest of us. If only you’d bothered to read our Sivaji review, you wouldn’t be blabbering like a blithering idiot.
3. You write: prob is with u r mentality not undersatnd the value of a product until u lose it….
The world has survived the departure of greater film artists like Marlon Brando, Orson Welles and Ingrid Bergman. Who gives a rat’s ass for this podi paya Kamal Haasan? For someone with three decades in the movie business, Kamal Haasan has put out a pathetic piece of shit in Dasavatharam.
so u filter the comments so sick
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You wacko, your comments have been reproduced in full (pl see previous comment).
Learn to be patient. Processing your baloney is not our sole raison d’être.
However critical of our reviews, we do not filter comments unless you use abusive phrases or violate other terms of use. Regular readers of SearchIndia.com know that and you will too if you stick around long enough.
We operate on U.S. Eastern Time and so sometimes there might be a time delay in processing your comments. But rest assured we will process them.
Hello,
I sincerely suggest you stop reviewing movies.
You are going crazy & overboard.
Do you know dasavatharam is one of all time block busters.
Do you know how much business it could do so far?
It created all this wonders just because it is a technical feast for a common movie goer. And all the credit goes to Kamal only.
Best Regards,
Supriya
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. You write above: I sincerely suggest you stop reviewing movies.
And we sincerely suggest that you start thinking through your head instead of your posterior.
2. You write: It created all this wonders just because it is a technical feast for a common movie goer.
Freak shows always attract attention. Dasavatharam – a technical feast? We haven’t laughed this hard in a long time. You want to watch a technical feat – Go watch Dark Knight.
Isn’t this the privileged 200th post? If so Iam honoured..
Forgive me ,nothing to say much.. I personally think presstest12 should not post here anymore , if he is so annoyed about you.
i haven’t seen any of Rajini’s movies, but had seen a lot of Kamal’s..( I liked many ..Indian, Appu Raja are some of my favorites) I had read some of the comments on this website where People like presstest12 thinks you are biased, that you like Rajini more than Kamal .. Is it true?… Or going by my inferences ,Are Rajinikanth’s films so hopeless?.Many comments say so..
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. You write above: Isn’t this the privileged 200th post? If so Iam honoured..
Sorry, it looks like Supriya (previous comment) pipped you to the post. 🙂
2. You write: I personally think presstest12 should not post here anymore
Let a thousand flowers bloom, let a thousand school of thoughts contend (was it Mao who said this…ironical considering his subsequent attack on intellectuals during the Cultural Revolution)
3. We are not biased notwithstanding what others write. We are just biased in favor of good cinema. The more good Hollywood and foreign movies you watch, the more depressed you get over the pathetic state of Tamil cinema.
have you seen ‘anbe sivam’?
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Based on your earlier recommendation, we’ve added Anbe Sivam to our Netflix queue.
Thanks for providing me good entertainment over the weekend. All the comments and your retorts make up a good storyline/screenplay/reading.
Kamal fans also talks about the different avatars Kamal acted/produced for them…like that of ‘Avvai Shanmugi’ and they say there is no one in india/world cinema who can match Kamal’s brilliance. It is not their fault that they didn’t watched ‘Mrs. Doubtfire’. Kamal watched it before them and made crores out of this and many other movies.
May be we can have a contest and find how many films/characters Kamal or kollywood/bollywood producers/actors lifted out of Hollywood. Also when he copies Al Pacino or any other good hollywood actor… for Kamal fans it is very novel and no one in indian cinema can act that way….fools it is because it is so foreign/alient. And they will also say..he should have born in USA and not in India.
Most of Kollywood/Bollywood producers/directors/actors are nothing but retailers/franchisee operators for the west and make money out of others IPR (Intellectual Property Rights). Hope there will be someday when hollywood producer/director/actor sue them when they send this kind of crap film to Cannes/Oscars.
There was one film Kamal’s ‘Aalavandan’ which I saw about 7 years back and never came out of that trauma till date. Hope Kamal will better his own record.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write above: Most of Kollywood/Bollywood producers/directors/actors are nothing but retailers/franchisee operators for the west and make money out of others IPR (Intellectual Property Rights). Hope there will be someday when hollywood producer/director/actor sue them when they send this kind of crap film to Cannes/Oscars.
Here’s an example of how Kamal Haasan profited from theft. Kamal’s film Thenali is a plain lift of the Hollywood comedy What about Bob? (Bill Murray, Richard Dreyfuss).
Aanai (Arjun) was a pathetic lift of the 2004 Denzel Washington film Man on Fire.
http://jackofall.blogspot.com/2005/03/inspired-kamal-hassan.html has done some good research on Kamal’s inspirations.. not sure how accurate some of them are because I haven’t seen the original (“Barabbas”, “To Sir with Love”, “Moon over Parador” etc.).. but I agree with most of them.
gud blog to throw light upon gandhiji..
truly shows this guy (kamal) lacks creativity and originality..
Also that blog mentioned by gandhiji.. tells one more thing.. all those movies that are copied from are g8 movies, real entertainers…
and you call it.. inspiration and steal em and make money… most of those g8 creators won’t bother about being copied … beacuse they are helping the impotent, impuissant cripples..
I do remember AR.Rahman’s reply to some press guy who asked is he gonna sue some of the bollywood music directors who stole his tunes .. “I have got my credits once people recogonize this is copied from me”… what a great man… truly great words…
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Theft is endemic in Indian movies, be it Hindi or Tamil.
If you think kamal movies are inspired by Hollywood
1. An interesting fact the when the movie Alavandhaan which was released 2001
People who watched the movie said,
Alavandhaan is inspired by Silence of the Lambs. Silence of lambs was released in 1991.
But actually the story of alavandhaan is from a novel Dayam which was written by kamal Hassan 1983.
2. The movie vetri vizha was released in 1987.
With the same story line
The movie Bourne identity was released in 2002.
But actually the story Bourne identity was from a spy fiction thriller novel by Robert Ludlum Bourne Identity is a 1980.
Now we do not know who was inspired by whom.
I would defeniftly agree that Indians are inspired by hollywood movies..
Kamal is one of the best actors, and not theeee best…
but everyone will agree that Kamal Hassan is definitely the most talented actor and different from other in world cinema
simply because apart from director and screenplay and etc, he can act in different language and different style, and was acting he does not work with big banners, and big directors to play safe like another actor.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Pl do NOT use all upper case (capital letters) in your comment. This time we’ve changed it.
You write above: I would defeniftly agree that Indians are inspired by hollywood movies..
Inspired by or outright theft? We think it’s the latter.
Kamal Haasan has essayed his great work “Dasavaatharamâ€, having in mind the ten Avatars (incarnations) of Lord Vishnu.
The logic of each role in Dasavatharam is creating waves among film buffs on what basis he would have conceived the 10 characters.
If you know the real Dasavatharams of Lord Vishnu, you can appreciate the script more.
1. Krishna Avatar – Vincent Poovaraghavan
Lord Krishna is actually a dalit (sometimes called untouchables or outcasts in the Indian caste system). He is dark-skinned. He saved Draupadi (In the Ancient Indian epic MahÄbhÄrata, she is the daughter of King Drupada of PanchÄla) when she was being
violated and he was the actual diplomat in MahÄbhÄrata. Lord Krishna dies of an arrow striking his lower leg. Now look at how Vincent was introduced. He appears when Asin is about to be molested and he saves her like Draupadi. Vincent is the Dalit diplomat, fights for land issue [soil issue to be exact] and dies from the metal rod striking his leg. Oh even five of Vincent’s men are drugged. Sounds familiar ???
2. Balarama Avatar – Balarama Naidu
This is an easy given. As the name suggests and the role personifies you can easily get it.
3. Mathsya (Fish in Sanskrit) Avatar – Ranagaraja Nambi
Nambi is thrown into water in an act of trying to save the Lord’s idol from being thrown into sea. What more clue do you want?
4. Varaha Avatar – Krishnaveni Grandma
During the Mukunda song, Krishnaveni Grandma does Varaha Avatar in the shadow puppetry. The frame freezes on it for a second. There is the clue. Moreover, in varaha avatar lord actually hides earth so as to protect life forms. Here too krishnaveni hides the germs – life form inside the statue so as to protect.
5. Vamana Avatar – Kalifulla Khan (A very tall man)
Remember in Vamana Avatar, Lord Vishnu takes the vishvaroopa, that is the giant form! Hence the Kalifulla here symbolises Vamana Avatar.
6. Parasurama avatar – Christian Fletcher
Parasurama is actually on an angry killing spree and killed 21generations of the particular Kshatriya vamsa. Hence the real KILLER… Guess what that’s what our Fletcher is! He comes around with the gun (modern upgrade for axe) and kills everyone around.
7. Narasimha Avatar – Shingen Narahashi
First of all the name itself is a play on the words Singam (means lion in Tamil] and Narasimha [the avatar being symbolised). Lord Narasimha manifests himself to kill the bad guy and he also teaches Prahaladha (a young boy and ardent devotee of Lord Vishnu). In the movie, he shows up to kill the killer Fletcher and is also a teacher. Lord Narasimha had to kill the asura with
bare hands and hence the martial arts exponent here. Got it?
8. Rama Avatar – Avatar Singh
Lord Rama stands for the one man one woman maxim, kind of symbolising true love. Here Avatar Singh portrays that spirit by saying that he loves his woman more than anything and wants to live for her.
9. Koorma Avatar – George Bush
If you look at the real Koorma Avatar, the Lord is the turtle/tortoise that helps in stirring the Ksheera Sagara and bringing out the Amrita (the drink of the gods, which grants them immortality). This essentially creates war among the Devas and asuras. Similarly today Bush facilitates war between you know whom… May be Kamal also indicates that this Avatar is a bit dumb like the tortoise…
10. Kalki Avatar – Govindaraj Ramasamy
As you know, the hero in Kaliyuga (Most interpretations of Hindu scriptures believe that our Planet Earth is currently in Kaliyuga) can be none other than the Kalki Avatar!!!
sAMY
June 27th, 2008, 9:16 am | #
The above comment is the answer for those folls who keep yaeling and spreading a wrong message to every that there was no need for the 10 roles in the movie…and it was created
SearchIndia.com Responds:
The above point about the various avatars has been made by others earlier.
Our response is the same – Baloney.
None of that avatar mumbo jumbo adds any credibility to a lousy movie.
Okay, Guys. Now relax. Everyone is entitled to his or her opinions and tastes. Whether “Dasavatharam†is good, bad or plain ugly is not important. The point is Kamalhasan, Ravikumar, the producer and others associated with this movie have made good money. And they have moved on to their next project.
Movies are meant for entertainment. Do not fight among yourselves trying to prove who is the better artist. You have a life to lead. Focus more on that. Do not worship Kamalhasan. Emulate him and copy his success, not his mannerisms.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write above: Do not worship Kamalhasan. Emulate him and copy his success, not his mannerisms
Voila, a good point, at last.
so agree with this
Kamal is one of the best actors, and not theeee best…
but everyone will agree that Kamal Hassan is definitely the most talented actor and different from other in world cinema
simply because apart from director and screenplay and etc, he can act in different language and different style, and was acting he does not work with big banners, and big directors to play safe like another actor.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Sure, Kamal is one of the better actors in India. As the old saying goes, in the country of the blind the one-eyed man is the king.
You write: he can act in different language
Genelia too can act in multiple languages (Hindi, Tamil, Telugu and Kannada). Does that make her a great actress?
dUDE THE POINT IS NOT ABOUT ACTING IT IS ABOUT GIVING MOVIES THAT CAN BE REMEMBERED
AND AWARDS FROM ALL THE LAUGAUGE
ESPECIALLY IN THE SO CALLED BOOLYWOOD HE WON THE BEST ACTOR FOR SAAGAR THE ONLY SOUTH INDIAN ACTOR TO WIN AN AWARD IN BOOLYWOD FOR A HINDI MOVIE…
yOU SEEM TO TALK LIKE A KID BY ASKING A STUPID COMMENT
Genelia too can act in multiple languages
SearchIndia.com Responds:
For the last time, pl use lower case (not capital letters) while posting comments. It makes it easy for others to read your crap.
1. When most movies made in India – be it Hindi or Tamil – are plain junk, awards mean nothing. The fact that Kamal is the only South Indian actor to win a Bollywood award means zilch.
2. We’ve seen dozens of Kamal Haasan movies (adu puli attam, siggapu rojakkal, tik, tik, tik, ilamai unjal adigirathu, ninaithale innikum, sattam en kayil, ullasa paravaigal, Vazhvey Maayam, michael, madana kamarajan, sanam teri kasam, saagar et al). Of the many Kamal movies we’ve seen, very, very few (like sigappu rojakkal, moonram pirai and a handful of others) are noteworthy. The rest are plain crap.
3. In your previous comment, you highlighted Kamal’s ability to act in movies made in several languages. We think that’s a silly argument. By mentioning a kid like Genelia, our point was to drive home the idiocy of your argument. Obviously, we failed.
Are you an NRI ?
Ok can give a list of movies which is not plain crap.
most of list of movies you have mentioned above is all crap. i do agree, but you cleverly picked only the crap movies.
remember kamal hassan has acted in more than 200 movies.
If award means nothing, virmandi- won the best asian film award.
Heyram was taken as a lesson for a semister in an university, but Obviously, its all crap as you say.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Virumaandi was decent. Kamal was OK in it but we thought Pasupathy stole the show with a stellar performance.
You are right about Hey Ram too. We once wrote that The payoffs are aplenty in Hey Ram – Kamal Haasan’s inspired acting, a nice social theme, and a moving story line.
Remember, exceptions like Virumaandi or Hey Ram do not prove the rule. Most Indian movies are plain trash and given Kamal’s 30+ years in the film industry, one would expect more than a freak show like Dasavatharam.
You write above: Are you an NRI?
Please read About Us.
I under stand that Dasavatharam is not a great movie
It does have flaws in it which is rare sight in kamal movie. but when it comes to performance and technique.
commitment, effort is amazing.
It would have been made better
But it is not as worse as the review.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write above: Dasavatharam ….would have been made better. But it is not as worse as the review
You are entitled to your erroneous opinion. The 10-avatars was merely a device to attract crowds. No substance, otherwise.
I also see that you have mentioned
Your “Kamalji†is not the only decent actor around.
There are plenty of good actors. India – Pasupathy, Nana Patekar, Vikram, Naseeruddin Shah, Konkona Sen-Sharma, Tabu, etc. Hollywood – Johnny Depp, Robert Redford, Robert De Niro, Viggo Mortensen (U.S.), Marion Cotillard (French) etc.
This absoultley ignorence.
Please understand kamal is not ONLY an actor
he is directer producer, screepaly etc the list goes on.
the above actors whom you have mentioned can only act which suits there age and role.
for kamal hassan doen,nt matter he does a lot of homework.
transforms himself into the character.
When i say this i mean talented , not an actor.
talent is what matters, actors are everywhere.
I wonder how you missed tomhanks one great actor
He was acting as an oldman on the eightoes and ninties when he was young,
he acts like a young dude when he is old, thats the diff
not like other actors who just act as per the remade script and role, big banners, well known directors
Tell me one multi talented actor
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. You write above: Please understand kamal is not ONLY an actor he is directer producer, screepaly etc the list goes on
Perhaps that’s the reason most of Kamal’s movies don’t stand out despite the bozo’s long innings in the industry. Movie-making is a specialized business. And within the movie industry, there is specialization as well. In our view, it’s better to stick to one thing in a demanding environment where you need a lot of skills.
If you look at Hollywood movies, the story & screenplay is usually handled by several persons. Not like in Tamil movies, where the story, screenplay, dialog & direction are all handled by one person. The end result is usually a crap show.
2. You write: he acts like a young dude when he is old, thats the diff
That’s the sad part because the vagaries of age are beginning to show up on Kamal. If you look closely at Kamal’s face in some of his recent movies, like Vettayadu Even the makeup can’t mask that.
(Remember, exceptions like Virumaandi or Hey Ram do not prove the rule.)
The same way dasavtharam do not prove the rule.
And please stop comparing indian movies to hollywood.
Hollywood budget, technique, and art directors are far more expensive when compared to Indian movies.
The best example is manoj night shyamalan
What ever you give they consider it as a foreign laugauge film
I explained that why you cannot compare kamal hassan to other actors, it doesn’t matter if his movies stand out or not, he has provided unforgettable movies to Indian cinema, you have only watched the crap movies
Only losers will stick to one thing in a demanding environment where you need a lot of skills.
And play safe by making the same king of movie all the time, gaining appreciation from some fools,
actors like kamal hassan fight back, that is why despite kamal few movies do not do well at the box office, kamal do not change his style and play safe like a coward, he fights back, takes the risk.
One thing i would like to tell, a person who works hard, will always be rewarded, no pain no gain.
Have you ever watched movies like pushpak, mahanadi,chanakyan,
In India nothing is predictable, if you make movies like Virumaandi or Hey Ram you get appreciation but no money.
If you make movies like dasa, avaishanmugi, indian, tenali. You get money but you lose your standard,
Ok now give a list of movies which is not crap? (Indian movies)
Give me one actor who has carried himself with out doing crap movies in India?
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. You write above: And please stop comparing indian movies to hollywood.
Hollywood budget, technique, and art directors are far more expensive when compared to Indian movies.
It’s not the money. With a few exceptions, our desi movie-makers are for the most party lazy, incompetent, thieving idiots.
2. You write: Ok now give a list of movies which is not crap? (Indian movies)
Here you go: Taare Zameen Par, Sholay, Manorama Six Feet, Johnny Gaddaar, Cheeni Kum (to a lesser degree)
another proud moment for indians..
http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7040179&version=1&locale=EN-US
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Oh, My God!
By the way, we have some stomach ache.
Do you know any place where we can get some Holy Sand that we can rub on our belly. We’ve heard that it helps!
One condition – the Holy Sand must have been taken from a cobra’s pit while the cobra was inside.
So you agree with rest of the comment?
(Taare Zameen Par, Sholay, Manorama Six Feet, Johnny Gaddaar, Cheeni Kum (to a lesser degree))
Sholay doesn’t fall in that category. Sholay is a commercial film.
So that is what i a said make movies like Virumaandi or Hey Ram you get appreciation but no money.
All the above movies you have listed was appreciated
But they never made money.
Kamal hassan do not make movies to make money,
however he has ensure that it does not go under a big loss, that is way you can see a lot of commercial elements in dasavthram, if we remove all the commercial elements, the movie would have got a better review but no money.
Again when ever you do something diff your always under a big risk, that is what kamal has been doing from the beginning
End of the day kamal hassan made a movie which is unforgettable, whether it is good or bad is a diff question
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write above: End of the day kamal hassan made a movie which is unforgettable, whether it is good or bad is a diff question
Can a bad movie be unforgettable? Well, we suppose so if it’s as bad as Dasavatharam.
another foolish kamal fan who argues endlessly….
hey fool…go and read from the beginning of this page atleast 10 times….
i know what you are affected with…. it is egoism & jingoism just like your Kamal. I am afraid till your death/ deathbed you will not realize your foolishness…You will be thinking that you are the wisest creature in this whole world…and why all the others are fools & not understanding you.
Do you think all the comments given above are by fools and for fools and you are the only wisest one who bring light to this blind world. Do you have more chromosomes than the others?
Go and suck up to Kamal if you like him….but some of us have every right to have a dislike and you can’t convince us even if you blabber all years till you get old.
Hopefully in your next life…get on with life…don’t argue again endlessly…that too when considerable amount of the points were already dealt with….we have seen so many kamal fans and so many kamal movies and this is the opinion I have…and I am repeating again you can’t change it….
ya it s bad that such movies complete 50 days,
It also bad that people consider it bad coz they do not want to accept the fact. One thing people cannot complain is kamal hassan acting not a single review was complaining kamal,s acting that it self shows he is the best.
DUDE I also see you comments not stable
(You say 2. We’ve seen dozens of Kamal Haasan movies (adu puli attam, siggapu rojakkal, tik, tik, tik, ilamai unjal adigirathu, ninaithale innikum, sattam en kayil, ullasa paravaigal, Vazhvey Maayam, michael, madana kamarajan, sanam teri kasam, saagar et al). Of the many Kamal movies we’ve seen, very, very few (like sigappu rojakkal, moonram pirai and a handful of others) are noteworthy. THE REST ARE PLAIN CRAP
Then again you agree by saying
(irumaandi was decent. Kamal was OK in it but we thought Pasupathy stole the show with a stellar performance.
You are right about Hey Ram too. We once wrote that the payoffs are aplenty in Hey Ram – Kamal Haasan’s inspired acting, a nice social theme, and a moving story line.)
Height of ignorance
(Pasupathy stole the show with a stellar performance.)
Your answers are partial
Ok as you as the old saying goes, in the country of the blind the one-eyed man is the king.)
Now tell me one actor with all the qulities as kamal
doesnt matter if if the movies out stand kamal has acted in more than 200 flms and has won 175 awards.
Who is occording to you is the best actor.
The same way if you Alpacino , Johhnny depp are best
You need ask thwm to watch kamal perfoming virmandi alvandhan, same actor with 2 diff physics
They wiil be seeing stars
And stop living in your own world.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Blah, blah, blah and more blah. Stop bloviating. As Bill O’Reilly (of Factor, a popular show on Fox in the U.S.) would say, it’s our job.
Even as you attempt to pick non-existent holes in our arguments, our question for you is Can you read?
Asin’s performance was the worst of it all.. her holding on to that statue foolishly, irritating voice, over-acting and over-enthusiasm was a crucial factor in making the movie unbearable. Probably she was trying to live up to the movie…
And what did u like about Kothai? She looked like a 21st century girl who had forgotten to wear her blouse..
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Although shrill, we thought Asin livened things up a bit.
Your review is so very good and truthful when compared to other ones which say that Kamal is a genius and Dasavatharam is breath-taking… but you can try and be a little more subtle in your criticism.
Cheers,
Harry.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write above: Your review is so very good and truthful ….but you can try and be a little more subtle in your criticism
Based on years of observation, we can safely say that subtlety tends to fly over the heads of most Indians. With our desis, you have to hit hit them hard on the head with a thick danda (stick) to get across the message/point.
Mr. asamband
Accept the fact that you don’t have the answer.
You people do not want to accept the fact.
I am no diehard fan of kamal, but I always appreciate hard work and talent, which you people, will never understand, because you people are arrogant,
Coming back to the review the worse part is you people have appreciated asins performance.
(Finally I was happy that you people can appreciate an actor)
Don’t live in your own world
(You are the only wisest one who brings light to this blind world. Do you have more chromosomes than the others?)
It’s not me it the majority has
That’s the reason the movie completed 50 days,
End of the kamal remains the genius,
Its only looks like dog shouting at the mountain
When we list out the strong points of kamal why he is genius,
You start arguing that he is not compared to Hollywood
When we justify that he still stands out compared to Hollywood
You guys come back saying dasa is not good movie if he genius
You please read the above feed back you have received
There are more comments on favoring kamal,
So it shows that you guys think
You are the only wisest one who thinks that you bring light to this blind world.
Yes kamal not genius, you guys are the genius
You guys have a better knowledge.
Even we watched so many movies of kamal and non kamal movies. Based on all the accepts we are saying that kamal is better compared to other actors when it comes to talent.
Meanwhile
Dasavathram has completed 50 days
And yes again see if can change it by spreading false rumors.
(Frog always feels he is the king inside the well)
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Your lengthy diatribe reminds us of one of our favorite lines from the bard: a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury signifying nothing (Macbeth).
lol….seems like people r praising u a lot 4 this 🙂 …btw even i think this movie is not art but fart…wasted my money and time…dunno how these losers r praising kamal for this movie….i do agree that kamal is a great actor …but movies like this just spoil his reputation…peace out
I don’t have answer to SANDEEPSAM. We don’t appreciate hardwork and talent when the result is goof up.
Even copying and adulterating is hardwork and talent and it is done to profit the producer. We can’t appreciate it when it even comes with a self-praising song at the end as though the entire film crew was there just helping Kamal. Please ask K.S.Ravi Kumar when he is planning to work with Kamal next. I guess he won’t.
It is not me or this blog criticising the movie. There are so many others in the length and breadth of internet which you fail to see . Reproduced below an interesting comment provided by a reader for Dasavatharam review.
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First of all, the movie is one of the most super-lengthiest movies I have ever seen. Metaphorically speaking, I felt as if the movie was longer than all three parts of “Lord of the Rings†put together, sans the story, sans screenplay, sans music, sans continuity, sans logic, sans romance, sans…. etc.,
It is very obvious that Kamal has struggled to bring the movie to an end. Too many characters for the ten roles he wanted to do.. I guess he wanted to beat “Sivaji Ganesan†by acting one more role to break the record of nine roles in the movie “Navaratriâ€. For that, I felt that a few characters were forcibly inserted.
All that said, He has touched the sensitive danger spots of every sect of the hindu culture. He has spared none! Now I understand why there were protests and court cases on the movie. However, he didn’t want to leave out and hurt other religions as well, so he inserted one character each for all other prominent religions in India, Christianity, Islam and Sikhism. I wonder what made him to leave out Jainism, Buddhism (ah I guess the Japanese was a Buddhist but it was not explicitely mentioned in the movie), Taoism, Confucianism, Paganism, blah blah-ism etc.,
At one point he tries to be very apologetic when he says “நான௠கடவà¯à®³à¯ இலà¯à®²à¯ˆà®©à¯à®©à¯ சொலà¯à®²à®²à®™à¯à®•, கடவà¯à®³à¯ இரà¯à®¨à¯à®¤à®¾ நலà¯à®²à®¾ இரà¯à®•à¯à®•à¯à®®à¯à®©à¯ தான௠சொலà¯à®±à¯‡à®©à¯..â€, I guess he is totally confused whether to accept his own identity as being born a Hindu or whether to be an atheist.
Other unnecessary things were many songs, bringing Karunanidhi in the picture, Bush character, Avtar singh etc etc., Overall it made us feel that the whole movie was unnecessary.
I have seen goofs in movies, but this is the first time I am seeing a movie in goofs.
My Verdict:
Kamal has tried to state his stance on religion, environment, politics, terrorism etc., but religion sticks out a mile, and others are suppressed. His stance on religion is confusing as well. He has assumed that the mass is very intelligent and they will fill all gaps in his movie which shows his stupidity. He has tried to say too many things and finally fails to deliver it coherently.
That said, “I won’t say the movie is a flop, but the movie is a disaster.â€
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One more thing I want to add is ‘why no one bothers when he and heroine is treating a Swami idol as though it is a toy – like a teddy bear all through second half of the movie;. If that was done by any one else, won’t there be a big hue and cry.
BTW, thanks to SANDEEPSAM I had some fun this weekend and the blog might reach 300 comments too.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
From all indications, it seems like the movie might make Kamal a lot of money. But that still won’t change our opinion of this freak-show.
(a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury signifying nothing (Macbeth).
Thanks
I appreciate the fact the you done good research to find the above line since you do not have an answer.
please do not copy from books see if you can answer in your words.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Have you heard of this thing called reading?
You might want to try it occasionally. We promise it won’t harm you. Unlike smoking, reading is not injurious to your health.
Who knows…it might even help you to construct a simple sentence without making mistakes.
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Mr asamband
thank you for acepting the fact that you do not have an answer
And for the self-praising song in the movie
even I was shocked to see kamal doing something like this…
Fools understand that was only to show the non kamal audience that all character was played by one man, and for god’s sake this is the first time i have seen kamal glorifying himself which unlike him…but why not he one actor who do needs to appreciated, and the song was suggested by ravikumar, and had to agree.
And why don’t you people go and comment on actors who include at least one song in every movie to glorify themselves, when someone can have a song in the movie just to show six packs which is so obvious, why not kamal when he has worked hard, to do something different,
I am not saying this coz I like kamal it is sad but true for non kamal fans, who keep appreciating actors who do work hard just wear colorful clothes and to impress as many girls and gain popularity without any talent but always in news if he shits or cuts his hair short, and for shitty reasons, please guys open your mind actors like kamal nana, mamooty, mohan lal, nasseruddin shah, aamir khan, needs more attention.
Please start writing reviews for some crap movies which is being made all the time in bollywood with same masala in a different plate. May be they will try doing something different. This will only make Indians proud.
Mr asamband
I think you are religious and orthodox, you shouldn’t watch movies if you are one
And I know you will say
(But that still won’t change our opinion of this freak-show.)
Fools will accept that they are one.
(Have you heard of this thing called reading?
Oh now what is that
No i have,nt
never heard of it
what does it mean please explain ?
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Dude i don,t have to read a book to answer your comments unlike you.
And iam not hear to know the meaning of reading.
Thats a nice idea to divert the topic,
which you are more intrested.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Stick to the Davatharam topic.
It’d help if you learn to write a simple sentence in English without making multiple errors. Have you tried reading your comments of the past few days…sheer torture. Hence the suggestion that a bit of reading wouldn’t hurt. Obviously, good advice is lost on dolts.
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[Deleted because it was a repeat of last few lines from SANDEEPSAM’s earlier comment on August 11th, 2008 at 9:18 am]
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Hi Sandeepsam,
Methinks you are really jobless. Wasting so much of your time on a stupid movie and glorifying Kamalhasan.
Trying for “biggest chamacha†award or what?
[rubbish deleted]
Yes I do agree my English as not good as yours.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
However
You never give me an advise you were only trying to be sarcastic in reply to my comment.
Since, you got jacked.
Your trying to be diplomatic.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. Please read previous comment (by Prahalad).
2. You write above: You never give me an advise
We don’t advise anyone here, least of all four-legged creatures. 🙂
Mr. Prahalad
Yes I am trying for the biggest chamacha award.
Do have a problem.
If you think I am jobless what are you doing here?
I am making you people realize that the movie is not worse as it is written above.
The blog writer has only picked the few mistakes in the movie and trying to prove that he is an expert, also looks like he watches a lot of Hollywood movie.
And if you think I am a chamcha yes that’s left to you.
I think that you are a ____ and ___
Would that make a difference?
If you disagree then try answering those comments instead
As you have written above
You have a life to lead. Focus more on that.
And no one is here to worship Kamalhasan.
But that doesn’t mean we accept the nonsense you write
Like the other fools, who do not even know anything about movies?
[Rubbish]
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Focus on Dasavatharam movie.
Rubbish
Hahaha
so finnally you do not have the guts to post my comment.
haha,
Hey atleast now stop you stop writing stupid blogs.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Cut the BS and focus on Dasavatharam.
I thought “Kallai Mattum” was the best song in the movie.. But just learnt that Himesh has stolen it from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCPZET3n3vQ
adds more eak to the freakshow.
Won’t be surprised if this review gets 300 comments before Dasa completes 100 days. 😀
SearchIndia.com Responds:
As they say here in the U.S., from your lips to god’s ears….
Heyho..
I had to stop reading the comments halfway —- …. You sure do know how to agitate people… 😉 It could be a useful skill, given the right context.
I’ve watched the film. I agree, that by the standards of acting that I would expect from Kamal — he could have done a hell of a lot more. But — I would also agree with the other reviewers, that — despite there being flaws (many many flaws) with the film, it has achieved a lot.
I’m not going to stoop to your level by using inflammatory language to make my point. You claim the story is a “total mess”. I say you’ve got a very fixed idea of what a story should look like, what it should convey, yadda yadda yadda. As far as I’m concerned, this is probably the first postmodernist Tamil film. (No that’s not an excuse for bad makeup!)
The storyline was subtle, yet complex. You had to go out of your way to make certain leaps of logic (and some of faith) to understand the movie’s underlying message. And it was about Fate, Faith and Chaos.
And… it provided a very alternative, thought-provoking narrative of the tsunami. That I must say — is the film’s crowing glory. That there is raw creativity.
You’re fair to be harsh — but you’re unfair in not emphasizing the sheer uniqueness of the film.
You consistently call it a freakshow. I’d like to remind you and everyone else reading this review that every innovation, practice, trend, etc. that we now consider to be immutable and beyond question, at one point in history was (with a few exceptions) considered freakish. If you doubt this, I’d suggest you look up texts of history, anthropology, etc.
In embracing (or at the very least accepting it for what it is) the alternative, the strange, the freakish, we only strengthen our identities – as individuals — and from a broader perspective– as an increasingly critical, evolving Tamilian audience.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. You write above: I’ve watched the film. I agree, that by the standards of acting that I would expect from Kamal — he could have done a hell of a lot more
Kamal Haasan can be considered a great actor only when you compare him to offal like Vishal, Simbhu, Ajith et al that clog the Kollywood sewer pipes. After 35 years, Kamal should have been at the ne plu ultra of acting. The reality – far from it.
Forget the legends like Marlon Brando, Robert De Niro and Al Pacino…Even johnnies come lately like the late Heath Ledger, Javier Bardem, Johnny Depp and Russell Crowe leave Kamal in the dust. This bozo shines only because the inmates have always reigned over Kollywood.
2. You write: The storyline was subtle, yet complex.
Did you pawn your lilliputian brain for some of that fine white powder.
The Dasavatharam storyline is as far from subtle as antipodes on a line spanning the planet. This was a crass, crude affair. All you had was 10 characters linked through the slender thread of a freakshow to bamboozle viewers and attract media attention.
3. You write: this is probably the first postmodernist Tamil film
Doesn’t seem like it given Dasavatharam’s linear narration. The Tamil film industry is trapped within the absurdist shackles of mediocre performers, writers and directors.
4. You write above: it provided a very alternative, thought-provoking narrative of the tsunami
If Dasavatharam be a thought-provoking narrative narrative of the tsunami, God please take away our thought process.
5. You write:You’re fair to be harsh — but you’re unfair in not emphasizing the sheer uniqueness of the film.
We did. By God, we did. Didn’t we call it a freakshow, which by its inherent nature is unique. Kamal took the concept/idea of 10 roles for the sake of sheer novelty and then tried to build a story on such a weak edifice.
It’s part of the Indian culture (perhaps of all Oriental cultures) for freakshows to attract large crowds.
6. You write: You consistently call it a freakshow. I’d like to remind you and everyone else reading this review that every innovation, practice, trend, etc. that we now consider to be immutable and beyond question, at one point in history was (with a few exceptions) considered freakish. If you doubt this, I’d suggest you look up texts of history, anthropology, etc.
Dasavatharam is a freakshow in the sense of the Siamese twins or two-headed monkeys not in the Galilean sense. All freakshows are not equal…some are more enduring than the others.
you wrote”so-so performance by Kamal Haasan (except in some roles like the Indian intelligence officer Balram Naidu, Patti and Rangaraja Nambi) and below par music”all this is ridiculous kamal excelled in the role of christian fletcher and poovaraghavan.everyone watched the movie is saying balram naidu is the best followed by nambi,fletcher,poovaraghavan and japanese fighter.all the songs are superhit and it seems that you understand tamil if you say songs are not good.songs are fentastic.tehr are many pluses in the movie with few flaws thats y it has become blockbuster.
you also wrote”Dasavatharam is the second dud in a row from Tamil film star Kamal Haasan.If Vettaiyaadu Vilaiyaadu (2006) was a bitter pill to swallow for Kamal Haasan’s fans, Dasavatharam is a bigger disappointment because of the heightened expectations raised by the ten roles Kamal plays in this movie”which is a very big comedy .u say vv is a dud then u must be dud or mentally retaded. it was a fentastic movie which was a very big blockbuster. do you understand tamil thats my question.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. You write above: do you understand tamil thats my question
Panni mundame, shaniyane, asadu …yaara paathe “Do you understand” Tamil kekkaraye?
Vekkamaille, oru Tamilan poi endhu kelvi kekkaraye just because you disagree with their reviews.
2. We have serious doubts that VV was a very big blockbuster. What is the source for your claim?
Note for other readers: The above use of Tamil is just to show our Tamil credentials to this dodo.
you wrote in the above comment”We have serious doubts that VV was a very big blockbuster. What is the source for your claim?”.how many more sources you need to accept vv is a big blockbuster.you are not ready to accept the facts and you are always doubtful and raise ridiculous questions. you pretend as if you do not know the box office verdict of a movie.when you say pokiri is a blockbuster where do you get boxoffice results for that movie.when you can get boxoffice results for movie like pokiri cant you get reults for movie like vv and billa.it shows your double standards.
you are not ready to accept the facts you dont like.ofcourse both the movie vv and billa are blockbusters.i have given plenty of third party sources to prove that.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write: you are not ready to accept the facts and you are always doubtful and raise ridiculous questions.
Where are the numbers for VV?
Some things are indisputable. Take Pokiri for instance..Based on the movie audience response in the hall, gripping story, solid screenplay, decent acting, songs….basically overall movie quality you instinctively know that it’s a blockbuster. The numbers only add to the certainty of the conclusion.
With VV, we keep asking for numbers because we felt the movie lacked the above ingredients of a blockbuster.
if you say that music is below par it means that songs are not that good.,but songs are super hit.it is sure that you do not undersatnd tamil .one who understand tamil well will not say songs are below par.it seems that you know only some bad words from tamil.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Dasavatharam is like Sivaji…the hype-machine has taken over.
This is the best review of Dasavatharam i have seen on web.
I finally watched this movie after many of my friends and colleagues praised this movie to the moon.
1 hour into the movie and what a Mega CRAP!!. I wonder why kamal hassan didnt play Asin and Mallika Sherwat’s role himself!!.
This movie should be rated as worst movie of the decade. Kamal hassan is the worst sycophant.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write above: I wonder why kamal hassan didnt play Asin and Mallika Sherwat’s role himself!!.
Don’t give that clown ideas.
you wrote”Take Pokiri for instance..Based on the movie audience response in the hall, gripping story, solid screenplay, decent acting, songs”.how ignorant you are will you decide by yourself the boxoffice results of the movie on basis of this stupid factors.
long back when you wrote”sitting in usa saying about the boxoffice result of a movie is difficlut”but i replied to you “for you it is easy to say boxoffice reports of movies .movies you like you say that is a blockbuster movies movies you dont like you say it is a flop”.and you say oh say one instance when we did like that.this is the instance.you say boxoffice reports of a movie as you, wish i have plenty of sources for boxoffice reports of a movie only source you have is cinema hall you are sitting in.what a crap you are?
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Audience response in the hall, gripping story, solid screenplay, decent acting and songs are significant proxies to determine the fate of a movie at the box office. Sure, there’s always the possibility that a movie in which we like all the above factors may not find favor with a lot of other people. But for the most part, when you have a blockbuster hit the audience tastes converge.
Yes, there are exceptions…like when we found Billa or Singh is Kinng wanting but the movies may have found favor with the audience though it’s hard to tell because of the PR offensive by the stars and the carpetbombing PR strategies in adoption these days.
You wrote “so-so performance by Kamal Haasan (except in some roles like the Indian intelligence officer BalramNaidu, Patti and Ranga raja Nambi) and below par music” this is ridiculous kamal excelled in the role of Christian Fletcher and poovaraghavan. everyone watched the movie is saying Balramnaidu is the best followed by nambi, Fletcher, poovaraghavan and Japanese fighter. all the songs are super hit and it is sure that you don’t understand Tamil if you say songs are not good. songs are fantastic. there are many pluses in the movie with few flaws that’s y it has become blockbuster.
He too accepted there are few flaws which he will not commit in next movie.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write above: there are many pluses in the movie with few flaws
You are entitled to live in your imaginary world.
[Trash Talk] who call Kamal a dinosaur. Who is [Trash Talk] are you to call Kamal Hasan like this? He is my idol and my hero. Apologize now or else i gonna [Trash Talk] right now.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Scoot, kiddo. Go, play with your dolls.
We’ve already told you once to post comments only when you are sober.
Oh, some comments are as hard as knowing the meaning of a story like in Dasavataram. No connection with the topic just crap talk and repeated craps.
Dasavatharam has stolen our pockets of whatever meagre sum we keep for charity. But, it’s a waste of money even for a charity.
Got caught and bowled!
i didnt think DASAVATHARAM was CRAP… yeah the screenplay was dragging a bit… but i still liked the movie.. not because I’m a Kamal fan but because DASAVATHARAM was different and a LOT better than the TRASHY movies that Kollywood churns out by the dozens like Kuruvi, Billa, ATM, Alwar etc etc. In my opinion the things which let this movie down are
1)Story/Screenplay
2)Songs (OMG.. the songs sucked BIG TIME)
3)Makeup.. (Chris Fletcher,G.W.Bush and Kalifulla Khan)
I was really disappointed with the music. They were a horrendous assault on the ear drums.. None of the songs had any life in them. But liked the Background music.. (esp during Fletcher’s intro)… B-)
The movie has its + points..
1)Acting (Both by Kamal and Asin).. Kamal was AMAZING as Balram Naidu, Chris Fletcher and Paati..!!
2)the fact that this was NOT a masala movie with HOPELESSLY CRUDE ACTION SCENES and SONG/DANCE SEQUENCES.
3)Special effects… WOW.. i was really AMAZED by the special effects.. the action scenes as well as some of the tsunami scenes were WONDERFUL.. by Indian movie standards..!!!
You said.. “what the heck is so great about doing ten roles??”
No man.. doing ten roles in a single movie is not that easy. Kamal really worked hard for it… Alas.. all his efforts were in vain… but still he deserves appreciation for his efforts..!!! 🙂
Personally i liked this movie because it was LOT better than the usual TRASH that Kollywood churns out by the dozens!!!!
SearchIndia.com Responds:
As we’ve said on several occasions, our expectation from a Kamal Haasan movie is infinitely higher in every facet of film-making be it story, screenplay, makeup or music than from podi passanga like Ajith, Simbhu, Vishal et al. That higher expectation amplified the disappointment from Dasavatharam.
You are talking so much bad about kamals dasavatharam. CAN you tell me some 4 movie names which you like. So that we may know that you also like movies insted of just ripping them apart.
waiting for your LIST …….
SearchIndia.com Responds:
We are not your mother to wait on you. Comprende?
Read our posts on this blog for the last 17 months to know the good, bad & ugly movies.
While you are at it, learn some basic English.
[Trash talk]
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You lazy scumbag, looks like you are still clinging to your ol’ mama’s drooping mammaries.
This is not your Cliff Notes Kollywood movie guide or Learn All about Tamil Movies in Five Minutes.
There are no short-cuts to knowledge, you acidfreak. You want to know more, invest some time in reading.
By the way Shaniyane, sorry there’s no cure for your constipated anterior or diarrheic posterior. Now, scoot.
[Trash Talk]
HENCE I SCOOT…
who the hell are you?
you are a foul smelling git.
i u again talk any shit about kamal or his movies…..dasavatharam is the best movie..the difficulties faced by mr.kamal…last warning for u..shut your bloody gob and mind your business
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write above: last warning for u..
Ada chee, po (get lost).
Ask your Mr.Kamal to learn the basics of makeup before he embarks upon his next movie.
Simple. Kamal is old and in 40 yrs in this business. He cant simply run around trees with young heroines like Rajni does. What rajni’s fan base is – ones that dont have an identity for themsleves is well known. But, thats not the issue here.
Kamal in 10 getups is crazy and does grave injustice to some of the roles he donned. Simply put, Kamal wants to make sure he doesnt run of work, so he gets himself more work, by donning more roles…next film, he’ll do the roles of everyone on the film all by himself – like hero, heroine, villain, director, producer, comedian etc..and he’ll dub for them as well. Kamal apparently has a lot of free time since he split from [Trash Talk] Sarika. 😀
This is a really good review. Dasavatharam was indeed a crappy fiasco. Even though I’m a great fan of Kamal, I feel Dasavatharam was not upto his mark.
1. There were no memorable scenes in the movie. Not a single scene stayed in my mind.(I still remember each and every scene of Michael Madana Kama Rajan where he only portrayed 4 different characters, as compared to 10).
2. Music was shit. I wonder why Ilayaraja or ARR weren’t roped up. Even a few minutes of background music from ilayaraja would’ve made a huge difference to the movie. They just go hand in hand…Kamal and Ilayaraja…they can each other’s minds. Ilayaraja knows exactly what kind of background music Kamal’s expressions and dialogues require.
3. Make up was sloppy. I couldn’t even see Kamal emote in any of the characters. His expressions, his eyes are what he is reknowned for.
4. In the course of accomodating 10 characters, the screenplay was compromised upon.
5. Above all, I’m surpised at all the comments that were against the reviewer. Be a fan, don’t be a fanatic.
Fans are always good critics. But fanatics never accept bad reviews.
I admire/respect Kamal. I’m a great fan of his movies, his charm, his acting, his wonderful ability to emote, his expressive eyes, his ability to step in and out of a role quickly…..but still Dasavatharam deserves a thumbs down bro. You gotta accept it.
Damn, I forgot to celebrate my 1st year anniversary here.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Happy Anniversary. 🙂
Your anniversary passed a few weeks back, on June 17.
Damn the iPhone. That thing lets us check for comments even in bed.
It’s really above my comprehension why a criticism of kamal should come from a rajini fan , or a criticism of vijay from an ajit fan, why cant it be just from a fan of cinemas. there are a lot of really really good cinemas out there, that I stopped watching indian movies. its really horrible to think that films like dasaatharam, kandhasamy , sivaji, chandramukhi.. etc still have viewers to make it a hit (hope kandalsamy doesn’t make a hit).
I’d watch movies by Miyazaki and be considered a child than see any of the trash out here and be considered an adult.
BTW have you watched Miyazakis animated masterpieces..
(to the kamal, rajini.. whatever fanatics out there)
now thats what putting effort into a movie means.not hogging screenspace and singing ulaganayagane.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write: It’s really above my comprehension why a criticism of kamal should come from a rajini fan , or a criticism of vijay from an ajit fan, why cant it be just from a fan of cinemas.
Because in Tamil Nadu, you don’t have fans, merely fanatics (with some stray exceptions, of course).
Someone should mail a DVD with subtitles of this film to George W. Bush and ask him to explain what this story is all about.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Now, wouldn’t that be funny? 😉
How dare you guys comment on this “magnum-o-pus”?!
😉
“modus-o-perandi” 🙂