Bollywood stars Shiney Ahuja and Om Puri are not the only Indians to take a dip in their maids’ swimming pool.
Au contraire, they are only some of the most high profile lusty Indian lotharios to have stuck their hockey sticks deep into their maid-servants’ goal posts.
Not an Uncommon Fantasy
Concupiscent Indian men of all ages seem to have an idee fixe with poking their maid-servants, both anterior and posterior.
Visit any Indian porn site, there are dozens and dozens of stories centering around our horny desi hombres screwing their maid-servants or fantasizing about going on a rampage with their maid-servants or boasting about sexploits with their maids.
The number of How-I-had-sex with my-maid-servant stories on the Indian porn sites is so large that they have separate categories devoted exclusively to maid-servants!
No kidding.
Chitty Chitty Bang Bang
It’d be fair to say that Indian men are completely obsessed with banging their maids any which way they can.
Now if you go by the stories on the Indian porn sites, Indian men are of a catholic mind in their maid obsession.
When it comes to giving free rein to their priapic urges, the Indian libertines are very non-discriminating.
Indians and non-discriminating, seems like a contradiction in terms, na. Usually yes, but not in this instance.
You see, Indian mens’ choice of maid-servants run the gamut – young, the not-so-young, old, married, single, widows, dark-complexioned, fair, wheatish, ugly, pretty, childless, lactating et al.
Holy cow, it even cuts across religious and geographical barriers.
You read of a Hindu Ram Sharma boasting of ploughing his Muslim maid Safeena Banu’s elysian fields or a South Indian in Mumbai blowing the trumpet about his Marathi bai blowing him.
Here in the U.S., people’s sexual idiosyncrasies tend to veer toward tits (bigger the better), color (black, Latina, White), trannies et al.
But we’ve never encountered this desi obsession with humping maids in Americans. Presumably because few Americans can afford to employ maid-servants and fear of the law.
Mostly a Class Issue
We think Indian mens’ obsession with maids is a class-based, exploitative phenomenon (beneath their sanctimonious veneer, India’s mostly Hindu swines are the most rapacious brutes).
Maid-servants in India are often seen as easy prey by the predators who come in the familiar garb of software engineer, government officer, chartered accountant, law school graduate or the curious college student.
Given the debilitating, stomach-churning poverty in that hell-hole a.k.a India, many women and young girls are compelled to work as maids in the homes of the upper- and middle-classes for the sake of a few morsels of food and to support older members of their family.
With little education, these scrawny creatures have little choice in their vocation. Household work is their sole exit visa to survival.
Also unlike in the U.S, employing a maid-servant in India is not an expensive proposition, well within the reach of even a middle-class family.
Plus, the ‘prestige’ issue that makes many Indians abhor the notion of doing manual chores like cleaning the cooking utensils, washing clothes, dusting the furniture or sweeping the floor makes maids a fixture of most households.
To make their plight worse, maid-servants because of their slovenly appearance and drab attire are considered dratchells, easy game for any and all groping hands.
Powerless and Defenseless
When you consider the sheer numbers of the poor in India, the maid-servants are at a significant disadvantage with the damocles sword of peremptory dismissal forever hanging over their heads.
The hapless maids can easily be cast aside at the whim of their master if they do not drop their pallu or skirt.
Since the Indian police is one of the biggest predatory organizations (rapes inside police stations are not unheard of in India), maid servants are well aware they’d get little assistance from the uniformed thugs.
Then there’s the cost factor. As we all know, South Asians are notoriously cheap (some decades ago we knew two South Asians, who jointly hired a hooker in India and after screwing her the duo locked her up in the bathroom from the outside when she’d gone for a post-coitus leak with her clothes still lying on the bed and vamoosed from the hotel without paying her. They couldn’t contain their glee at having a pukkat screw).
Any surprise then that Indian men consider petting and bedding a maid to be a sexier, cheaper and safer alternative to wanking off or heaven forbid, paying a slut (schmuck, remember we live in the age of AIDS). Right?
It’s the Balance of Power, Stupid
So the overall balance of power is clearly against the maid-servant in Indian homes.
A fact obvious to all and sundry.
It’s this tilted balance of power, their economic and social vulnerability if you will, that makes Indian men see maid-servants as odalisques in their make-believe harems, easy and cheap objects to satiate their lust.
When the balance of power is so tilted against the maid-servant, even a so-called consensual romp on the bed is less than consensual.
Hear that, Om Puri, Shiney Ahuja et al?
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This was the theme of a Telugu art film named Vanaja. Its pretty good.
Watch it sometime if possible.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Yes, we’re aware of Vanaja since it was made by a Columbia University graduate Rajnesh Domalpalli.
At the time of its release, the movie was covered in the newspapers here including the NYT.
We’ll see it soon if Netflix has it.
For those unfamiliar with the movie, here’s the Wiki profile of Vanaja.
You are out of your damn mind of putting Shiney and Om Puri in same category.
Shiney RAPED his maid way younger than him whereas Om Puri was 14 when he had sex with 55 year old maid.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. As our post suggests, all sex between a member of the household with a maid-servant has shades of rape in it given the fundamentally inequitable balance of power in the relationship between the lower class maid and upper class member of the household.
Unless, of course they marry quickly (an event as rare as the visit of the Halley’s Comet).
2. You write: Shiney RAPED his maid way younger than him whereas Om Puri was 14 when he had sex with 55 year old maid.
Legally speaking, Shiney Ahuja has not been convicted yet.
Your sense of description had me in stitches…. you guys surely know how to draw vivid pictures.
With that said, its quite sad with whats happening in the household. What’s also more depressing is that the maids are accused of seducing the men and the naive wives stand by their husbands side and just watch it happened.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Are Malaysian men as obsessed with maids as their Indian counterparts or is this one of those unique Maid-in-India phenomenon. 😉
Over here, there are rape cases but not with maids or if there are then I’m guessing its a with the maids consent and wife’s ignorance 🙂
(Interesting point deleted at request of commenter)
We do have maid abuse cases here though. Our maids come from Indonesia and just recently had an incident where the maid was abused and she died.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write: Our maids come from Indonesia and just recently had an incident where the maid was abused and she died.
In India, maids usually don’t die but in many instances are subject to hymenorrhexis a.k.a devirginization.
Alright.
Good
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Aha, so you like the Maid-in-India post.
Since you write ‘good’ above, we’re curious: Are you by any chance the Maid or the employer?
I bet if Americans had a similar maid system, they’ll be screwing around too.
All men are pigs(of different degrees).. not just Indian men. Kobe Bryant is a non-Indian example of (hotel)maid-raping I can think of.
Casting couch is another example of class-based exploitation found world-wide.. I don’t see it to be any different from the maid-in-India(oh Alisha! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plUxChXs3w8) sex.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. You write: I bet if Americans had a similar maid system, they’ll be screwing around too.
Would they? Wouldn’t that be considered sexual harassment at workplace.
Plus, law has greater teeth here.
2. You write: Kobe Bryant is a non-Indian example of (hotel)maid-raping I can think of
Kobe was not convicted of rape.
3. You write: Casting couch is another example of class-based exploitation found world-wide..
With several middle class and upper class girls (particularly children of yesteryear stars) entering the filmi duniya (showbiz) in India over the last 10 years, do you think the casting couch analogy is still valid for Bollywood or its lesser siblings like Kollywood, Tollywood et al?
Yes, of course, the post was mind blowing.
I have never expected that a person would generalize a nation from what he had read on xxx sites. That was first of it’s kind to me. I have seen people generalizing like “hey! the food in that city is not good. Last time when I ate in Ruchi’s at 121st main, 35th cross, aravind nagar they served a bad chapati”.
I’m not the maid and the employer. I clean my used utensils and wash my clothes myself, though I can easily afford a maid.
Shiney Ahuja! I can understand. He is an a**. When I read TOI article about Om puri, I didn’t find any disgusting thing in it.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. You write: the post was mind blowing.
There you go again.
Can’t you think of anything other than blowing or raping (you’ve used the word ‘rape’ thrice in your earlier comment). 😉
2. You write: When I read TOI article about Om puri, I didn’t find any disgusting thing in it.
And why would that be? Because Om Puri is a better actor.
3. You write: I have never expected that a person would generalize a nation from what he had read on xxx sites. That was first of it’s kind to me.
Heard of inductive reasoning?
don’t senior members get to see what Deepa wrote?
SearchIndia.com Responds:
The deleted portion was a little tricky…also went off on a bit of a tangent.
Since you want to know more, the deleted portion was related broadly to exploitation of women.
@SI: “When the balance of power is so tilted against the maid-servant, even a so-called consensual romp on the bed is less than consensual”
— Wow!
Overall. I like this post, including the amusing inferences you made from xxx sites.
PS: My Inference: American men want to f*** their friends mothers and sisters friends because that’s what I see on Naughty America. 🙂
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write: My Inference: American men want to f*** their friends mothers and sisters friends because that’s what I see on Naughty America.
Incest is universal…cuts across religious and regional boundaries.
In some Southeast Asian countries, incest is said to be rampant among some communities.
As for India, read this: Are Indian Dads Developing a New Hobby – Raping Daughters?
“you’ve used the word ‘rape’ thrice in your earlier comment””
The South Park Effect actually.They use the word ‘rape’ like a normal word in the episode “The China Problem”.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
We’re watching The China Problem now.
You may want to call it rape and insert your ethical stance about the “imbalance of power,” but that would also apply for every prostitute who turns tricks. Surely you wouldn’t consider their “johns” to be rapists now, would you?
In case you didn’t know, American men too have fantasies about maids too. A very noticeable feature in pornography are the “French Maid” and “Babysitter” fantasies. Therefore, in contrast to your claim, it’s not an Indian phenomenon alone. Jude Law, Ethan Hawke, Jon Gosselin (of Jon and Kate plus 8), and now (supposedly) Brad Pitt boinked their nannies while in a relationship. Care to comment? I guess it’s okay when the servant is moderately decent looking and WHITE?
What happens in India with maid-boinking is a result of repressed sexuality. It’s the perception people have with sex as a disgusting act and for the sole purpose of raising babies- something that our monotheistic guests left as a gift. I am with Twig when he mentions that what Shiney did is rape and what Om did is consensual IN LEGAL TERMS. In fact, his maid ought to be imprisoned according to U.S. Laws.
Bottomline: Epic failure on your part. Your article here had no facts to substantiate your claims as this phenomenon being an Indian phenomenon alone, besides sensationalizing bullshit.
Cheers!
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1.You write: You may want to call it rape and insert your ethical stance about the “imbalance of power,” but that would also apply for every prostitute who turns tricks. Surely you wouldn’t consider their “johns” to be rapists now, would you?
No, we wouldn’t consider every John to be a rapist because the rules of the game are clearly defined with prostitution.
You pay $X for HJ, $XX for BJ, $XXX for the deep-dive et al.
But with maid servants in India, the rules of the game are nebulous and not clearly defined – The maid is usually hired to wash her employer’s underwear. But should the employer order her to wash what’s inside his underwear as well the maid has little recourse given her limited education, low socio-economic status and limited-to-nil alternative opportunities.
2. You write: In case you didn’t know, American men too have fantasies about maids too…Epic failure on your part. Your article here had no facts to substantiate your claims .
With reference to American men’s fantasies about maids, maybe, maybe not. But nowhere near as pronounced as with Indians.
Look at the leading non-Indian text porn sites. Maid-servants as a category does not usually exist. Now, look at Indian text porn sites, maid-servant as a category is one of the prominent categories, if not the most prominent.
Obsession with maid-servants is an Indian cultural thing.
Of course, you may argue that our hypothesis rests on the shaky scaffold of content on some porn sites. But that’s still potent evidence and often supporting evidence for a hypothesis is available in the unlikeliest places.
3. You write: A very noticeable feature in pornography are the “French Maid” and “Babysitter” fantasies…..Jude Law, Ethan Hawke, Jon Gosselin (of Jon and Kate plus 8), and now (supposedly) Brad Pitt boinked their nannies while in a relationship….I guess it’s okay when the servant is moderately decent looking and WHITE?
An American nanny or baby-sitter, particularly in the days when Brad Pitt or Jude Law were young, was hardly in the same vulnerable socio-economic stratum as Indian maid-servants of the same era.
Often, the baby-sitters from that era came from fairly comfortable middle-class families and did that for spending money. Look at the two (or was it three) baby-sitters in the famous Hollywood movie Halloween. Are any of those pot-smoking babysitters even remotely comparable to the Indian maids of that era who were paid no more than Rs 20 per month.
Until fairly recently, the gap/gulf in socio-economic status between a maid-servant and employer in India was orders of magnitude higher compared to the U.S. baby-sitter/nanny relationship with employer.
In the U.S. context of Brad Pitt’s younger days, a nanny would probably dine with the family. Unimaginable that a maid-servant would dine with the employer’s family in India then or now. This point while seemingly trivial is actually not and highlights the significant difference between the two cultures (Indian and American).
Bottomline, the power equation was/is still not even remotely as severely imbalanced in the U.S. vis-a-vis the Indian scenario. Plus, of course the greater impartiality of the law here compared to the anything-goes-if-you-have-money India.
Try harder with your dubious analogies next time.
4. You write: Your article here had no facts to substantiate your claims as this phenomenon being an Indian phenomenon alone, besides sensationalizing bullshit
When Galileo and Copernicus dared to deviate from the conventional wisdom of the day, the ignorati most likely said the same adding ‘deviation from religion’ to their effete, impotent arguments. 😉
5. You write: What happens in India with maid-boinking is a result of repressed sexuality
Until the first experience, it’s all ‘repressed sexuality’ for everyone. 😉
Seriously, repressed sexuality is hardly an extenuating factor or acceptable excuse for humping the maid when her ability to say ‘No’ is severely constrained.
6. With respect to Om Puri, if you go by the TOI article and Om’s wife’s comments there were two sexual encounters with maids. The first when he was a kid. What about the second woman?
On the porn front, you can see lotsa american sites where the men are fantasizing about screwing their moms.
Forget porn stuff, we can’t drive any conclusion from it. But yes, from the socio economic structure in india having a maid at home (many prefer the one stays all along) is cheaper and easier.
Especially, in case of both working, the man will definitely have adequate opportunites to be alone with the maid. ‘Being alone with a woman definitely brings the ‘mood’ for an average indian man, since all along his life he has been kept ‘separated’ from the other sex. So the average indian man cannot think anything else other than sex when ‘being alone with a woman’.
The hypocrite Indian society is to blame here.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. You write: On the porn front, you can see lotsa american sites where the men are fantasizing about screwing their moms.
Well, if you believe in the gibberish that Freud scribbled then the first object of lust for males is their mother.
After reading Freud, if you still suggest only Americans fantasize about their moms then perhaps there are no males in India. 😉
2. Now, this gets interesting.
We just checked the public WHOIS to see if MaidinIndia.com had been registered. And lo and behold, of course it has been registered. By none other than an Indian named Sasidhar Kallamadi, who lives in Dallas, Texas.
Wonder what plans Sasidhar has with MaidinIndia.com. 😉
BTW, there’s no need to don’t rush out for MaidinIndia.net or MaidinIndia.org. Both are already taken by Mumbai-based Ashish Goenka.
And people still say Indian men are not obsessed with their Maids.
@SI: In our not-so-humble view, we are increasingly tending toward the view that life has absolutely no meaning. You live, you die.”
IMNSHO, a person(s?) who has repeatedly expressed such views, will only write these type of articles to provoke debate.
I don’t see many people getting mad at this article.. maybe your hyperthesis is accurate 😉
Joe, do both of you work 😉
maidinindia.org sounds better than the other two.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
You write above: I don’t see many people getting mad at this article.. maybe your hyperthesis is accurate
Maybe, the above post evokes nostalgic memories for some readers of their Maid-in-India experience. 😉
You Netflix scouring, obsessed, incompetenet nincompoop with Indian lineage should pretty much be cursing and secretly lusting right at the moment when you were pouring out your pathetic brains out on Indian’s tendencies. Wish you had a maid too else this garbage would not be coming out from your slothy, slimy, garbage. It appears you eat what you s**t.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
When you learn to spell
incompetenetoops incompetent, you can strike us down as a ‘nincompoop’ and froth both at your anterior and posterior ends.Until then, it’d behoove you to clamp the lid on all your
orifecesoops orifices. 😉Tired of your ad hominem attacks. Now you know why we deleted your first comment. 🙁
I feel that a lot of arguments exchanged above back and forth have less basis in hard facts and more basis in subjective judgement.
True that maids in India are at a disadvantage economically, but surely not all are not so hard pressed for money that they will accept rape/abuse.
In bigger cities (metros + 5-6 other major cities), the demand for household help is so high that housemaids are reasonably organized, with well defined pays (ranging from Rs 200-1000 per month per household) and clear job descriptions (one or more of cleaning/washing clothes/washing utensils/cooking/ etc).
The men here cant get away with abuse easily, and maids wont take it lying down.
One thing is sure that you wouldnt get a maid for Rs 20 a month even in small towns of India, presently, although the balance of power tilts more and more towards the household males as you go to smaller cities and towns. This still doesnt mean that maids there cant raise their voices, although the odds against them increases now.
SI’s assumption that all Indian men (or a lot of them) abuse their maids is just not valid.
For example, take your following statement:
We think Indian mens’ obsession with maids is a class-based, exploitative phenomenon.
The “class-based, exploitative phenomenon” part is agreeable. It is very natural and it appears obvious.
But what of the first part ?
Are you saying that “all Indian men” are obsessed with their maids and harbour fantasies towards their maids ?
If you are saying so, then it is a statement that cant be verified. It is a gross generalization.
Lets break this into the following cases:
1. Households where males abuse their maids.
2. Households where males fantasize about doing so but refrain from doing so due to fear (of family/society/law).
3. Households where males have consensual sex with maids (it is possible).
4. Households where males steer clear of fantasies.
Neither you nor me has evidence or facts about the relative frequency of each of these cases.
If I understand you correctly, then your opinion is that (1) plus (2) is a majority case.
I feel that (2) and (4) put together will be a majority.
If you say that all Indian men are obsessed with their maids, then I say that there are many many households in India where maids are treated justly and not ‘humped’ as you say.
But in the absence of hard facts, we cant go further.
The second part of your statement (given below) is also an example of your own bias, on the basis of which you have generalized grossly.
(beneath their sanctimonious veneer, India’s mostly Hindu swines are the most rapacious brutes).
If this is what you believe, then you havent seen, read or heard anything about the abuse of household help of Asians (Indians, Indonesians, Philipinos and Malayasians) in the Middle East.
Firstly, a lot of such incidents are not allowed to go out of those countries, and come to light only when the victim somehow escapes the clutches of the owner and seeks help from some group, or when the victim manages to come back home.
A similar level of abuse in India would cause a major hue and cry in the present day, and the eager media would make it a point to publicize the news (for whatever motives).
Secondly, the above line of reasoning is not to condone the sins of those Indian males who abuse their maids, by saying that it is a much smaller level of abuse compared
to what the men in Middle East do to their maids.
Also, you cant generalize the Indian male on the basis of an Om Puri or a Shiney Ahuja, just as you cant generalize an American/European male on the basis of Brad Pitt or Jude Law.
Things do change over a period of time.
The number of victims who come forward to report cases of rape is much higher now in India than it was say 10 years ago (this can be verified, although I havent done it).
It is similar with abuse of any kind.
What is hard to get out in the open is the extent of domestic violence (physical and emotional).
People and families seem to put up with this a lot more than the abuse by an outsider.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
1. You write: The men here cant get away with abuse easily, and maids wont take it lying down..
You really are a naughty fella (or as they say in your lingo Thunta). 😉
Won’t take it lying down? No worry, there’re so many other positions described in the Hindus ‘Bible‘ – Kirtibandha, Dolita (not Lolita), Svanaka, Hirana, Kirtibandha, Traivikrama, Dadhyayataka, Janukurpara, Yugmapada, Hansa-Lila et al (Source: Kamasutra)
Seriously, how many of these incidents come to light in newspapers or TV?
People and the state itself routinely get away with worse in India.
Sure, the maids might earn more these days than in the days of yore but we are told the cost of living has also increased exponentially lately.
It’s hard for us to believe that given the opportunity many Indian men would not act out the maid-fantasies they vividly paint on the naughty sites.
2. You write: Are you saying that “all Indian men” are obsessed with their maids and harbour fantasies towards their maids ?
No, we wouldn’t so far as to say that but our hypothesis is that it appears large enough to merit scrutiny.
3. You write: One thing is sure that you wouldnt get a maid for Rs 20 a month even in small towns of India,
When we said Rs 20 a month, we made it clear we were speaking of a bygone era not contemporary India.
3. You write: If I understand you correctly, then your opinion is that (1) plus (2) is a majority case.
Yes, these two would likely constitute a significant number although whether it’s 51% or 49% or 35% is hard to say in the absence of studies.
It’s also true that we’ve not had the opportunity to empirically probe the Maid-in-India phenomenon. That’s why in some of the comments, we used the term hypothesis.
4. You write: Households where males have consensual sex with maids (it is possible).
When the maid’s ability to say ‘No’ is constrained, we say almost all such couplings have shades of rape in them.
5. You write: the balance of power tilts more and more towards the household males as you go to smaller cities and towns. This still doesnt mean that maids there cant raise their voices, although the odds against them increases now
Right, it probably gets worse as you move into the hinterlands.
6. You write: The second part of your statement (given below) is also an example of your own bias, on the basis of which you have generalized grossly.
(beneath their sanctimonious veneer, India’s mostly Hindu swines are the most rapacious brutes).
It’s our conviction based on observation of Hindus (who constitute about 81% of India) at macro and micro levels that these creatures tend toward brutish behavior. Their callous actions extend even to the U.S. For an example, read – Indian Perfume Millionaires Guilty in NY Slavery Case.
BTW have you visited http://www.blanknoise.org ….people are making some noise here.. hope it gets heard soon.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Just checked it out.
Now, we know not to smile in India. 😉
Here’s an excerpt from the above link:
there was a comment about the casting couch.. and I know its real..
I went for an job interview in a very nice metropolis of india, a very well behaved place than the one I live in. I was waiting for my turn .. and there was a interview going on by the side.. for receptionist position.. and the interviewer asked “Can I take yours” and the girl replied ” everyone takes, why not you?.. there was a tone of resigned acceptance of the fate she has to endure to have a job.. and still the utter coolness of not thinking twice.. I can remember the tone of voice that made this innocuous dialog sound rustic. I accepted a job at the office but left within a week, the company closed within a month. they were also designing some 5 adult magazines.. It’s one incident that shook my little idealistic brain.
then there was this film company by a guy who has left his village to make a quick buck as a film producer. He was duped by his ‘Directors’ and assistants who have a nice grasp in the workings of kollywood, he had to go home, packing all that was left and swindling money in the guise of getting a car loan. I dont think the loan was repaid. The company was dissolved within a month of getting the loan, and the whole team disappeared.. so where was the casting couch.. the heroine. .. I don’t know what to feel for that girl, her mother was waiting for her girl outside the office. The girl came out cool as a cucumber, the mother was glowing. and I can recognise the musty smell inside the office.
I dont know what I could have done, or what should be done. It was only later that I started talking, talking to people with stars in their eyes. asking them to think of what they want and what they need to live.. There are also incidents said to me by people I know that many bosses ask a little adjustment for a little increment.. Incredible india it is.
SearchIndia.com Responds:
Given the right opportunity, most human beings would readily exploit/sexploit another. It’s of course a little harder to do so in the West for various reasons (greater teeth for the law, wider choice of jobs available et al).